Topic: First Drive: 2019 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350

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[Sir Osis of Liver]

Exclusive RWD platform ✔
526HP in-house engine ✔
6 speed manual ✔

Toyota: "Can't be done."

[rrocket]

Exclusive RWG platform [emoji818]
526HP in-house engine [emoji818]
6 speed manual [emoji818]

Toyota: "Can't be done."

The bore spacing is identical to the Coyote as is the deck height is too. Which means that engine travels down the exact same line as the Coyote..where's there's excess line capacity.

6 speed manual isn't Ford's

Not sure what RWG means? Is that an abbreviation for something? Otherwise it shares the same platform as all Mustangs...it's not bespoke to just the Shelby. And they sell 75k-100k of the S550 platform per year. Economy of scale.

[BWII]

Real World Grrr...

Rear Wheel Grip

Right, We're Gone!

Rrrrrr...whhh....glug...

Ride With Girls

Hmmm...pretty sure I'm not getting it.

Just a lot of really weird guesses.


Love the car, hate the shiny black wheels.  Yuck.  At least they could've used the PP2 wheels...
 


 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Exclusive RWG platform [emoji818]
526HP in-house engine [emoji818]
6 speed manual [emoji818]

Toyota: "Can't be done."

The bore spacing is identical to the Coyote as is the deck height is too. Which means that engine travels down the exact same line as the Coyote..where's there's excess line capacity.

6 speed manual isn't Ford's

Not sure what RWG means? Is that an abbreviation for something? Otherwise it shares the same platform as all Mustangs...it's not bespoke. And they sell 75k-100k of them per year.

Toyota has a V8. Use it. Better to use a different engine configuration than outsource to a competitor, especially if their version has more power.

Most manufacturers buy transmissions from others.

They could sell a pile if they priced it right.

But badge engineering is just too easy and too profitable to resist.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Exclusive RWG platform [emoji818]
526HP in-house engine [emoji818]
6 speed manual [emoji818]

Toyota: "Can't be done."

The bore spacing is identical to the Coyote as is the deck height is too. Which means that engine travels down the exact same line as the Coyote..where's there's excess line capacity.

6 speed manual isn't Ford's

Not sure what RWG means? Is that an abbreviation for something? Otherwise it shares the same platform as all Mustangs...it's not bespoke. And they sell 75k-100k of them per year.

Toyota has a V8. Use it. Better to use a different engine configuration than outsource to a competitor, especially if their version has more power.

Most manufacturers buy transmissions from others.

They could sell a pile if they priced it right.

But badge engineering is just too easy and too profitable to resist.

Have you seen the SIZE of Toyota's V8?  The thing is bloody huge.  It's DOHC so it's got VERY tall heads, which increases both the height and the width of the engine.  No way does it fit in a Supra!!!!

[Sir Osis of Liver]

It fits in the LC500 yeah? Decontent it, slap a Toyota face on it and a hoop spoiler <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Alternatively, take the 3.5L V6, TT it, <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

 

[rrocket]

Exclusive RWG platform [emoji818]
526HP in-house engine [emoji818]
6 speed manual [emoji818]

Toyota: "Can't be done."

The bore spacing is identical to the Coyote as is the deck height is too. Which means that engine travels down the exact same line as the Coyote..where's there's excess line capacity.

6 speed manual isn't Ford's

Not sure what RWG means? Is that an abbreviation for something? Otherwise it shares the same platform as all Mustangs...it's not bespoke. And they sell 75k-100k of them per year.

Toyota has a V8. Use it. Better to use a different engine configuration than outsource to a competitor, especially if their version has more power.

Most manufacturers buy transmissions from others.

They could sell a pile if the priced it right.

The V8 is for Lexus...you'll see it blown in TT guise in the LC-F. Would likely be too heavy for the small footprint they wanted in a Supra, as well a CoG concerns since their benchmark was the Cayman.

[Gurgie]

Beast of a car, kudos to Ford 

It's not for me as I'm not a pony car guy, but it sure would be fun to flog on the track 

[rrocket]

It fits in the LC500 yeah? Decontent it, slap a Toyota face on it and a hoop spoiler <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Alternatively, take the 3.5L V6, TT it, <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

And sell it for $25k so they can sell lots, right?

[OliverD]

It fits in the LC500 yeah? Decontent it, slap a Toyota face on it and a hoop spoiler <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Alternatively, take the 3.5L V6, TT it, <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Toyota wanted to make a sports car, not a GT.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

It fits in the LC500 yeah? Decontent it, slap a Toyota face on it and a hoop spoiler <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Alternatively, take the 3.5L V6, TT it, <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Toyota wanted to make a sports car, not a GT.

I thought they wanted to make a Supra. Silly me.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

It fits in the LC500 yeah? Decontent it, slap a Toyota face on it and a hoop spoiler <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

Alternatively, take the 3.5L V6, TT it, <BAM> Supra that's actually Toyota.

And sell it for $25k so they can sell lots, right?

Price it the same as the equivalent Mustang or Camaro, like the arguably most successful Supras.

[Fobroader]

Exclusive RWD platform ✔
526HP in-house engine ✔
6 speed manual ✔

Toyota: "Can't be done."

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

[ChaosphereIX]

If I was a pony car guy, THIS would be the one I would get. Hands down. Reminds me of what I would love a new Alfa 8C to be like.

I would consider a Camaro...from a few years ago. Current? Yuck.

[OliverD]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

And yet it's getting great reviews.

To call BMW an inferior company is rather rich.

[Fobroader]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

And yet it's getting great reviews.

To call BMW an inferior company is rather rich.

Compared to Toyota, come on. Which one will be around running when the cockroaches and twinkies are the only thing left, not the BMW.

[OliverD]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

And yet it's getting great reviews.

To call BMW an inferior company is rather rich.

Compared to Toyota, come on. Which one will be around running when the cockroaches and twinkies are the only thing left, not the BMW.

I don't really give a about that, I know which one I'd rather be driving today.

[Fobroader]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

And yet it's getting great reviews.

To call BMW an inferior company is rather rich.

Compared to Toyota, come on. Which one will be around running when the cockroaches and twinkies are the only thing left, not the BMW.

I don't really give a about that, I know which one I'd rather be driving today.

Me too  The GT350 or a Land Cruiser

[Niklasky]

Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The new "Supra" has nothing on the MK4 as that was a proper Toyota engineered sports car, the new one, its a badge engineered car from an inferior company.

And yet it's getting great reviews.

To call BMW an inferior company is rather rich.

Compared to Toyota, come on. Which one will be around running when the cockroaches and twinkies are the only thing left, not the BMW.

I don't really give a about that, I know which one I'd rather be driving today.

The Mustang, you're damn right about that !