Author Topic: First Drive: 2019 Ford Ranger (Read 19210 times)

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #40 on:** December 27, 2018, 10:42:24 am »

Quote from: ArticSteve on December 26, 2018, 10:58:40 pm

I really wonder how many stripper Colorados are sold. My bet would be not too manyt

ZIPPO Canyons always seem to be fairly flash.

My Dad has a newer Colorado as a daily driver, and while it is a close-to-base truck, even it has some options. Like, chrome trim, carpeted floor, and 4x4, and a small (4"?) infotainment screen.

His truck is probably equipped much like the 'base' Ford Ranger will be equipped.

OliverD · « **Reply #41 on:** December 28, 2018, 09:59:04 am »

A base Ranger is $32,869 with freight.

The comparable Colorado – 4WD and V6 – is $34,600.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2019, 10:56:12 am »

So, every single review of the Ranger compares it with the Tacoma. Even Ford had the Tacoma on site during their launch event for comparison purposes.

I suppose this makes sense, seeing as the Tacoma is far and away the sales leader in the segment, and is therefore the benchmark. Anyway, it's like Ford took the measure of the Tacoma, and set out to beat it: Acceleration, Payload, Towing, Interior Comfort, Features.

And yet, I still don't think the Ranger will eat into Tacoma sales all that much. Trucks, more than any other type of vehicle, are bought on reputation, and the Tacoma's reputation is Legen-(wait for it)-Dary. I think the Ranger will cannibalize F-150's sales numbers a little, as well as eat into the Colorado/Canyon sales numbers. Those people who were going to buy a Tacoma will probably still buy a Tacoma. Even though the 3.5 D4S engine was a mistake for that truck (shoulda stayed with the 4.0).

ArticSteve · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2019, 11:30:30 pm »

Even though the 3.5 D4S engine was a mistake for that truck (shoulda stayed with the 4.0).

Why would you say that? What's needed in the Taco is an auto transmission change and a steering wheel change and a seating change ....

dkaz · « **Reply #44 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:06:36 am »

People who buy automatic Tacos are weird.

Ex-airbalancer · « **Reply #45 on:** January 04, 2019, 08:06:15 am »

Quote from: DKaz on January 04, 2019, 12:06:36 am

People who buy automatic Tacos are weird.

I thought people who buy older SUVs and

about mileage to be weird

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #46 on:** January 04, 2019, 08:27:28 am »

Quote from: ArticSteve on January 03, 2019, 11:30:30 pm

Even though the 3.5 D4S engine was a mistake for that truck (shoulda stayed with the 4.0).

Why would you say that? What's needed in the Taco is an auto transmission change and a steering wheel change and a seating change ....

Everything I've heard from people who have owned the truck is that the engine doesn't make a good bunch of low-end/mid-range torque/power. It's all very peaky. It seems like the 4.0 and its more broad torque curve was a better fit for the truck, even if it was greedier.

I get why Toyota put the 3.5 D4S into the Tacoma (fuel economy, mostly), I just don't necessarily agree with it. Wouldn't it be great if they adapted the 4.0 for use with D4S?

Also, why did they put the 3.5 into the Tacoma, but left the 4Runner with the 4.0?

OliverD · « **Reply #47 on:** January 04, 2019, 09:40:18 am »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on January 04, 2019, 08:27:28 am

Also, why did they put the 3.5 into the Tacoma, but left the 4Runner with the 4.0?

Because the 4Runner hasn't been updated since that engine came out.

dkaz · « **Reply #48 on:** January 04, 2019, 10:45:38 am »

Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 08:06:15 am

I thought people who buy older SUVs and about mileage to be weird

Ex-airbalancer · « **Reply #49 on:** January 04, 2019, 10:49:56 am »

Quote from: DKaz on January 04, 2019, 10:45:38 am

Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 08:06:15 am
I thought people who buy older SUVs and about mileage to be weird

I dont complain about the mileage I get in my truck or SUV , but you younger guys do

I guess I have an old body but you have an old soul

dkaz · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2019, 11:06:47 am »

Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 10:49:56 am

I dont complain about the mileage I get in my truck or SUV , but you younger guys do
I guess I have an old body but you have an old soul

Well I am 35 but I have a heart of a 58 year old.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #51 on:** January 04, 2019, 11:16:59 am »

Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 10:49:56 am

Quote from: DKaz on January 04, 2019, 10:45:38 am
Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 08:06:15 am
I thought people who buy older SUVs and about mileage to be weird

I dont complain about the mileage I get in my truck or SUV , but you younger guys do
I guess I have an old body but you have an old soul

For the record, I'm not complaining about my truck's mileage, merely pointing out how bad it is.

DKAZ, you and I are the same age. Bought big Toyota's within a week of each other, too. I seem happier with mine, though.

Fobroader · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2019, 11:32:23 am »

Cool to see that Ranger is back on the market. With the Taco, Colorado and Jeep this year, its great to see that this smaller truck market is picking up.

EV-Light · « **Reply #53 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:15:31 pm »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on January 02, 2019, 10:56:12 am

So, every single review of the Ranger compares it with the Tacoma. Even Ford had the Tacoma on site during their launch event for comparison purposes.

I suppose this makes sense, seeing as the Tacoma is far and away the sales leader in the segment, and is therefore the benchmark. Anyway, it's like Ford took the measure of the Tacoma, and set out to beat it: Acceleration, Payload, Towing, Interior Comfort, Features.

And yet, I still don't think the Ranger will eat into Tacoma sales all that much. Trucks, more than any other type of vehicle, are bought on reputation, and the Tacoma's reputation is Legen-(wait for it)-Dary. I think the Ranger will cannibalize F-150's sales numbers a little, as well as eat into the Colorado/Canyon sales numbers. Those people who were going to buy a Tacoma will probably still buy a Tacoma. Even though the 3.5 D4S engine was a mistake for that truck (shoulda stayed with the 4.0).

Let’s wait and see...we should know in 6 months.

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dkaz · « **Reply #54 on:** January 04, 2019, 12:23:45 pm »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on January 04, 2019, 11:16:59 am

For the record, I'm not complaining about my truck's mileage, merely pointing out how bad it is.

DKAZ, you and I are the same age. Bought big Toyota's within a week of each other, too. I seem happier with mine, though.

I'm not really complaining either. And I did like mine on Wednesday when it was +8 out, sunroof open. Actually overall I do like it, but the little things have prevented me from loving it. Maybe if I was able to use its capabilities more, I would appreciate it more. We'll see this summer.

Anyway, back on topic, has anyone seen any photos of the second row interior? I wanted to compare it with the Tacoma and Canyon.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #55 on:** January 04, 2019, 02:41:47 pm »

^^^ This video does a pretty good job of comparing the Ranger and Tacoma, both inside and out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLZn97kLm0

sszoomzoom · « **Reply #56 on:** January 04, 2019, 06:41:38 pm »

Not that I am ever going to change my oil but this is dumb and what were they thinking.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/diyers-take-note-the-2019-ford-rangers-oil-change-procedure-contains-a-big-extra-step/
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/ownership/changing-your-2019-ford-rangers-oil-you-better-take-off-that-front-left-wheel-then/ar-BBRNMRy?li=AAggFp0

rrocket · « **Reply #57 on:** January 04, 2019, 06:50:08 pm »

Quote from: sszoomzoom on January 04, 2019, 06:41:38 pm

Not that I am ever going to change my oil but this is dumb and what were they thinking.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/diyers-take-note-the-2019-ford-rangers-oil-change-procedure-contains-a-big-extra-step/
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/ownership/changing-your-2019-ford-rangers-oil-you-better-take-off-that-front-left-wheel-then/ar-BBRNMRy?li=AAggFp0

First one to market with an oil filter relocation kit will be rich!

Solstice2006 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 04, 2019, 06:54:36 pm »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on January 04, 2019, 11:16:59 am

Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 10:49:56 am
Quote from: DKaz on January 04, 2019, 10:45:38 am
Quote from: Airbalancer on January 04, 2019, 08:06:15 am
I thought people who buy older SUVs and about mileage to be weird

I dont complain about the mileage I get in my truck or SUV , but you younger guys do
I guess I have an old body but you have an old soul

For the record, I'm not complaining about my truck's mileage, merely pointing out how bad it is.

DKAZ, you and I are the same age. Bought big Toyota's within a week of each other, too. I seem happier with mine, though.

GBA, yours has the new truck smell. And the nice big price tag that goes along with it....

draghon · « **Reply #59 on:** January 04, 2019, 09:25:39 pm »

Quote from: sszoomzoom on January 04, 2019, 06:41:38 pm

Not that I am ever going to change my oil but this is dumb and what were they thinking.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/diyers-take-note-the-2019-ford-rangers-oil-change-procedure-contains-a-big-extra-step/
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/ownership/changing-your-2019-ford-rangers-oil-you-better-take-off-that-front-left-wheel-then/ar-BBRNMRy?li=AAggFp0

Easiest way to get at thr filter on my civic is also to remove the wheel, not a big deal imo.