Topic: The Hyundai Santa Cruz truck is headed for production ‘ASAP’

[Fobroader]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I"m glad they put the 7-pin in.  Makes it easier to install a trailer brake controller if you ever do decide to tow a trailer large enough to have brakes.  All you need to do is run the blue wire back from the brake controller to the plug.  Heck, it's possible the blue brake wire is already routed forward to the engine bay.  Maybe they've even put a port in so you don't even really have to wire in the controller, it just plugs in with the right adapter.  BTW, pretty much every single mid-size truck comes this way.  They're not equipped with brake controllers, but they're more often than not wired for them, c/w 7-pin connectors. 

Since when is making a vehicle MORE capable ever a bad thing?  Good for Hyundai for actually doing their research and recognizing what people who tow may want/need.  In this case a 7-pin connector.

BTW, provincial rules vary, but the rule of thumb is if a trailer has a gross weight of more than 1500lbs, it needs brakes.  My 10' pop-up has brakes, and I would consider it easily towable by something like the Santa Cruz. 

[bridgecity]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat with my MDX at times, its about 4500lbs with the trailer.   I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat (4500lbs) with my MDX at times.  I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

Same goes for the Ridgeline.  That's a transaxle vehicle.  I've never heard of a Ridgeline being an unreliable tow vehicle.

[bridgecity]

^ Ya, I don't get the concern. 

I towed thousands of kms with our old Pilot, know for a weak transaxle.  Never an issue.  Use as intended and don't worry about what you may be putting extra wear on.  You can't cover off everything.

[ktm525]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat (4500lbs) with my MDX at times.  I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

Same goes for the Ridgeline.  That's a transaxle vehicle.  I've never heard of a Ridgeline being an unreliable tow vehicle.

Well having owned a Ridgeline now for over 10 years I wouldn't want to tow much more than about 3500 lbs with it, just not enjoyable. Between wringing out that V6 and the transmission sitting sideways .Get ready for screaming in 3rd gear at 100 km/h. Can it do it? Sure I guess but I just feel so bad doing it.. The Hyundai is not going to feel better so yeah maybe 2500lbs max? My old rule of thumb was to divide the max towing by half and that is a good reasonable number for relaxed trouble free towing.

[Fobroader]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat (4500lbs) with my MDX at times.  I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

Same goes for the Ridgeline.  That's a transaxle vehicle.  I've never heard of a Ridgeline being an unreliable tow vehicle.

Well having owned a Ridgeline now for over 10 years I wouldn't want to tow much more than about 3500 lbs with it, just not enjoyable. Between wringing out that V6 and the transmission sitting sideways .Get ready for screaming in 3rd gear at 100 km/h. Can it do it? Sure I guess but I just feel so bad doing it.. The Hyundai is not going to feel better so yeah maybe 2500lbs max? My old rule of thumb was to divide the max towing by half and that is a good reasonable number for relaxed trouble free towing.

I'm kind of on that 50% of towing capacity for safety and enjoyment. Again, were not talking about 1 ton duallies here.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat (4500lbs) with my MDX at times.  I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

Same goes for the Ridgeline.  That's a transaxle vehicle.  I've never heard of a Ridgeline being an unreliable tow vehicle.

Well having owned a Ridgeline now for over 10 years I wouldn't want to tow much more than about 3500 lbs with it, just not enjoyable. Between wringing out that V6 and the transmission sitting sideways .Get ready for screaming in 3rd gear at 100 km/h. Can it do it? Sure I guess but I just feel so bad doing it.. The Hyundai is not going to feel better so yeah maybe 2500lbs max? My old rule of thumb was to divide the max towing by half and that is a good reasonable number for relaxed trouble free towing.

That's a general rule of thumb for almost any tow vehicle. 

My Tundra can tow 9800lbs, and I HAVE towed that much with it, it's just not something that was enjoyable, and I wouldn't want to do it often, or for large trips. 

[PJungnitsch]

Some it is just mass, not fun when the tail tries wagging the dog

[dirtyjeffer]

If its rated for 5,000 lbs, it should be able to tow 5,000 lbs safely.  I'd be really disappointed if all I could feel like I could safely tow was a couple of jet skis with a vehicle that is rated for 5,000lbs.

Its a Hyundai toy truck....anything over a few sea doos or quads is all I would do with it. Same with a Ridgeline. For me its not a matter of safety, its that whole transaxle going boom and costing all the money.

I tow my boat (4500lbs) with my MDX at times.  I don't know what the issue would be.  Again, if its designed right, why do you need to worry about the transaxle.  Keep under the tow rating and tow safely.  I wouldn't worry about the transaxle.

Same goes for the Ridgeline.  That's a transaxle vehicle.  I've never heard of a Ridgeline being an unreliable tow vehicle.

Well having owned a Ridgeline now for over 10 years I wouldn't want to tow much more than about 3500 lbs with it, just not enjoyable. Between wringing out that V6 and the transmission sitting sideways .Get ready for screaming in 3rd gear at 100 km/h. Can it do it? Sure I guess but I just feel so bad doing it.. The Hyundai is not going to feel better so yeah maybe 2500lbs max? My old rule of thumb was to divide the max towing by half and that is a good reasonable number for relaxed trouble free towing.

yea, that's kind of where i was going...i mean, sure, it can tow 5000 lbs, but how will it feel on the highway at 110 km/hr...is it going to be white knuckle driving, watching for sway, hard to stop???...again, i don't have any experience with towing, but from the numerous videos i've seen on YouTube of tow fails, i just think you're better safe than sorry.

[dkaz]

Even someone who may only pull their trailer 3 times a year and otherwise commute or at worse take their kids to the rink?

maybe it's just me, but some things, i don't think you should skimp on...if you're just going to pull a small utility trailer or the jet skis a few times a year, that's fine...but if you really need to tow something bigger 3x a year, i'd likely just rent something for the day...all it takes is one accident to everything up.

You're calling this an awesome truck but dissuading people from looking at it. Which is it?  Why don't people trust engineers? It can probably tow more but the company lawyers and accountants want to minimize the lawsuits and warranty claims so they set it at a low 5,000 lb. There is a safety factor in there.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Even someone who may only pull their trailer 3 times a year and otherwise commute or at worse take their kids to the rink?

maybe it's just me, but some things, i don't think you should skimp on...if you're just going to pull a small utility trailer or the jet skis a few times a year, that's fine...but if you really need to tow something bigger 3x a year, i'd likely just rent something for the day...all it takes is one accident to everything up.

You're calling this an awesome truck but dissuading people from looking at it. Which is it?  Why don't people trust engineers? It can probably tow more but the company lawyers and accountants want to minimize the lawsuits and warranty claims so they set it at a low 5,000 lb. There is a safety factor in there.

Remind me again, how much fun was it towing at max weight with your Sequoia? 

[dkaz]

yea, that's kind of where i was going...i mean, sure, it can tow 5000 lbs, but how will it feel on the highway at 110 km/hr...is it going to be white knuckle driving, watching for sway, hard to stop???...again, i don't have any experience with towing, but from the numerous videos i've seen on YouTube of tow fails, i just think you're better safe than sorry.

Sway bars and trailer brakes, have you even towed anything big before? Jeebus.

[dkaz]

Even someone who may only pull their trailer 3 times a year and otherwise commute or at worse take their kids to the rink?

maybe it's just me, but some things, i don't think you should skimp on...if you're just going to pull a small utility trailer or the jet skis a few times a year, that's fine...but if you really need to tow something bigger 3x a year, i'd likely just rent something for the day...all it takes is one accident to everything up.

You're calling this an awesome truck but dissuading people from looking at it. Which is it?  Why don't people trust engineers? It can probably tow more but the company lawyers and accountants want to minimize the lawsuits and warranty claims so they set it at a low 5,000 lb. There is a safety factor in there.

Remind me again, how much fun was it towing at max weight with your Sequoia? 

I had no problems with it. The problem is we overloaded the GVWR of the Sequoia which was a legal and insurance no no.

[dirtyjeffer]

You're calling this an awesome truck but dissuading people from looking at it. Which is it? 

i never said that (i don't mind it, but i never said it was awesome)...and it's not a truck...it's a compact crossover with an open bed in place of the "trunk".

[z973]

you can order one for delivery late summer 3 packages

https://www.hyundaicanada.com/en/coming-soon/2022-santa-cruz/pre-order

[dirtyjeffer]

you can order one for delivery late summer 3 packages

https://www.hyundaicanada.com/en/coming-soon/2022-santa-cruz/pre-order

kind of dumb to have a pre-order with no pricing announced yet.

regarding the trim levels, the "base" trim (Preferred AWD) is actually very well equipped.

[dkaz]

No auto climate control on the base model though. Yes I have an obsession but I HATE fumbling with HVAC controls. Oh too hot, switch. Oh too cold, switch. Oh it suddenly warmed up outside, switch vent mode, go to higher fan speed. Arrrrgh.

Too bad the middle trim comes with leather seats.

[dirtyjeffer]

No auto climate control on the base model though. Yes I have an obsession but I HATE fumbling with HVAC controls. Oh too hot, switch. Oh too cold, switch. Oh it suddenly warmed up outside, switch vent mode, go to higher fan speed. Arrrrgh.

Too bad the middle trim comes with leather seats.

fair enough, but it still has a pretty decent amount of features for a "base" trim...i don't mind leather seats though, easier to keep clean.

[Jaeger]

No auto climate control on the base model though. Yes I have an obsession but I HATE fumbling with HVAC controls. Oh too hot, switch. Oh too cold, switch. Oh it suddenly warmed up outside, switch vent mode, go to higher fan speed. Arrrrgh.

Too bad the middle trim comes with leather seats.

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