Topic: The Hyundai Santa Cruz truck is headed for production ‘ASAP’

[dirtyjeffer]

Are there any small-ish CUVs that can tow 5,000 pounds?

the Jeep Cherokee, when equipped with the V6 and towing package, can tow 4500 lbs.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Are there any small-ish CUVs that can tow 5,000 pounds?

Define small-ish.  Anything midsize can usually tow around 5000lbs.

Any of the compacts (CR-V, Rav4) can usually tow 1500lbs, with a few exceptions - the Rav4 Trail for one can tow 3500lbs.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Again, this won't be bought by traditional truck buyers.  Truck buyers will continue buying half tons and mid-sizers like the Tacoma and Ranger. 

This will be bought by people who previously had a CUV, and like the 'appearance' of the Santa Cruz.  They've likely never owned a truck, and will have no need for a truck, but they'll see this thing as giving them the 'image' of a truck owner, but it will drive exactly like the CUV that they're trading in, and it will be easy to park in their garage and at the grocery store. 

I imagine this will be sold to a lot of people who will be remaining 'in-brand'.  I.E. Hyundai and Kia owners trading in their current Tucsons and Kona's, were pleased with the experience, and want another Hyundai. 

[quadzilla]

Are there any small-ish CUVs that can tow 5,000 pounds?

Define small-ish.  Anything midsize can usually tow around 5000lbs.

Any of the compacts (CR-V, Rav4) can usually tow 1500lbs, with a few exceptions - the Rav4 Trail for one can tow 3500lbs.

I was thinking same class but I'm sure some straddle the line into the next class above.

[ktm525]

Again, this won't be bought by traditional truck buyers.  Truck buyers will continue buying half tons and mid-sizers like the Tacoma and Ranger. 

This will be bought by people who previously had a CUV, and like the 'appearance' of the Santa Cruz.  They've likely never owned a truck, and will have no need for a truck, but they'll see this thing as giving them the 'image' of a truck owner, but it will drive exactly like the CUV that they're trading in, and it will be easy to park in their garage and at the grocery store. 

I imagine this will be sold to a lot of people who will be remaining 'in-brand'.  I.E. Hyundai and Kia owners trading in their current Tucsons and Kona's, were pleased with the experience, and want another Hyundai.

That is a good summary. I guess we will see. Closest thing I can think of last trying this was Subaru Baja?

[dirtyjeffer]

Again, this won't be bought by traditional truck buyers.  Truck buyers will continue buying half tons and mid-sizers like the Tacoma and Ranger. 

This will be bought by people who previously had a CUV, and like the 'appearance' of the Santa Cruz.  They've likely never owned a truck, and will have no need for a truck, but they'll see this thing as giving them the 'image' of a truck owner, but it will drive exactly like the CUV that they're trading in, and it will be easy to park in their garage and at the grocery store. 

I imagine this will be sold to a lot of people who will be remaining 'in-brand'.  I.E. Hyundai and Kia owners trading in their current Tucsons and Kona's, were pleased with the experience, and want another Hyundai.

exactly.

Alex released his video where he gets to see it in person and does a first look on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtVBWmJ1T94

[z973]

Are there any small-ish CUVs that can tow 5,000 pounds?

Passport?

the Passport is classified as a mid-size unit though...the Santa Cruz is classified as a compact...the  Passport also starts at $46k (plus freight and fees)...i'm guessing the Santa Cruz will start around $15k less than that (again, depending on what trims we get in Canada)...the rumours are saying the pricing will likely be a slight upcharge from the new Tucson which starts at $28k in Canada...so maybe (if we get lower trim Santa Cruz units here) they would start around $30k?

The prise of 28000 is for the Fwd you have to add 2000 for AWD and I suspect another 2000 for the Turbo  this is why I said starting mid 30 to mid 40 for the most equip

[dirtyjeffer]

Are there any small-ish CUVs that can tow 5,000 pounds?

Passport?

the Passport is classified as a mid-size unit though...the Santa Cruz is classified as a compact...the  Passport also starts at $46k (plus freight and fees)...i'm guessing the Santa Cruz will start around $15k less than that (again, depending on what trims we get in Canada)...the rumours are saying the pricing will likely be a slight upcharge from the new Tucson which starts at $28k in Canada...so maybe (if we get lower trim Santa Cruz units here) they would start around $30k?

The prise of 28000 is for the Fwd you have to add 2000 for AWD and I suspect another 2000 for the Turbo  this is why I said starting mid 30 to mid 40 for the most equip

very possible...but an AWD 2.5T trim isn't a base model...of course, we won't know which models come to Canada or what the pricing of any of them will be until closer to launch...most people are guessing the pricing based on the new Tucson and adding a bit of a premium to it (hence why i'm guessing it may start around $30k here).

[Jaeger]

Again, this won't be bought by traditional truck buyers.  Truck buyers will continue buying half tons and mid-sizers like the Tacoma and Ranger. 

This will be bought by people who previously had a CUV, and like the 'appearance' of the Santa Cruz.  They've likely never owned a truck, and will have no need for a truck, but they'll see this thing as giving them the 'image' of a truck owner, but it will drive exactly like the CUV that they're trading in, and it will be easy to park in their garage and at the grocery store. 

I imagine this will be sold to a lot of people who will be remaining 'in-brand'.  I.E. Hyundai and Kia owners trading in their current Tucsons and Kona's, were pleased with the experience, and want another Hyundai.

That makes a lot of sense.

[dirtyjeffer]

Again, this won't be bought by traditional truck buyers.  Truck buyers will continue buying half tons and mid-sizers like the Tacoma and Ranger. 

This will be bought by people who previously had a CUV, and like the 'appearance' of the Santa Cruz.  They've likely never owned a truck, and will have no need for a truck, but they'll see this thing as giving them the 'image' of a truck owner, but it will drive exactly like the CUV that they're trading in, and it will be easy to park in their garage and at the grocery store. 

I imagine this will be sold to a lot of people who will be remaining 'in-brand'.  I.E. Hyundai and Kia owners trading in their current Tucsons and Kona's, were pleased with the experience, and want another Hyundai.

That makes a lot of sense.

exactly...GBA gets it too, and he's a Truck owner.

[Jaeger]

2.5t with AWD should make for some punch in this not overly large vehicle.

Looks good in that available olive paint. Not my kinda ride, but I can see where this might sell reasonably. I can also see where it might not. But at least it's not another same as every damned thing else product.

[dirtyjeffer]

2.5t with AWD should make for some punch in this not overly large vehicle.

Looks good in that available olive paint. Not my kinda ride, but I can see where this might sell reasonably. I can also see where it might not. But at least it's not another same as every damned thing else product.

agreed...maybe it will be a bust, but good on them for bringing something out that is different...not something i'd be interested in, but i can see it being useful for lots of city people.

[bridgecity]

dj, most of us get it.  I was seriously just trying to have a conversation on what would be hauled in this unit (what it would be used for), what if any advantage it has over a CUV, and the viability of it.  Like I mentioned previously, I dig it.  You are the one that continuously gets defensive whenever somebody asks questions about a Hyundai product.  Relax, we're not all against your beloved brand.

[Fobroader]

dj, most of us get it.  I was seriously just trying to have a conversation on what would be hauled in this unit (what it would be used for), what if any advantage it has over a CUV, and the viability of it.  Like I mentioned previously, I dig it.  You are the one that continuously gets defensive whenever somebody asks questions about a Hyundai product.  Relax, we're not all against your beloved brand.

[bridgecity]

 

[Bubba]

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[dirtyjeffer]

dj, most of us get it.  I was seriously just trying to have a conversation on what would be hauled in this unit (what it would be used for), what if any advantage it has over a CUV, and the viability of it.  Like I mentioned previously, I dig it.  You are the one that continuously gets defensive whenever somebody asks questions about a Hyundai product.  Relax, we're not all against your beloved brand.

sigh...for one, it's not my beloved brand...i've only ever owned 1 Hyundai vehicle (others in here have owned more than that).

secondly, you asked what could you haul with it that you couldn't haul with a regular CUV...i said anything that can't fit in the confined space of a regular CUV...or anything you don't want that may damage or make a mess in your CUV...i'm not sure how that doesn't answer your question...others have said the exact same thing, but i'm the one labelled as being defensive...i'm not being defensive...this isn't a vehicle i'd buy, but i'm not the one comparing it to truck, and shitting on it because it can't do what a truck does...as i said on page 1, it's just a regular crossover with an open hatch...i have no idea why there's so much hate on it...other than the typical Hyundai hate that exists in here.

can't wait for the review of this when it comes out...if it scores a 10/10 for the powertrain, you guys are going to have a stroke.

[dkaz]

To be fair to dirtyjeffer, I think we would raise the same arguments when the Ford Maverick is unveiled. There are two entrants into this new compact unibody pickup class so there has to be a market for it.

[PJungnitsch]

That might be a better bet for usefulness:

[Great_Big_Abyss]

FWIW, I watched the TFL video, and the bed has a built in retractable tonneau cover which will keep gear dry and relatively secure.  The 'bed' has loads of tie downs which could theoretically increase its usefulness (carrying a stove or dishwasher home from the store, for example).  It also has decent payload - close to 1600lbs, of which 660lbs (numbers all approximate) is useable in the bed.  That ain't shabby for a small vehicle.  You'll fill the bed with volume before you ever run out of payload.

Speaking of, I could see a vehicle like this being useful for somebody who has a plot in a community garden.  You could fill the bed with half a yard of too soil and drive it to your plot.