Topic: Preview: 2020 Jeep Gladiator

[dkaz]

The day I got about 800 lb of stuff from IKEA, I expected the rear of my Sequoia to be harsh sagging and it didn't. I'd still like to get Bilstein HD shocks back there at some point.

[OliverD]

Cool pic, but it looks like the rear is sagging.

The rear end on most trucks sags when you put some tongue weight on a hitch...

You expect it to remain at its empty ride height with 500lbs hanging off a point 3 feet behind the rear axle?  Don't forget, this is a mid-size class of truck, with a mid-size rated towing capacity.  That Grand Wagoneer and tandem axle trailer is probably approaching its max tow capacity.

Sure, but it's not a good look for a press photo.

[aquadorhj]

The day I got about 800 lb of stuff from IKEA, I expected the rear of my Sequoia to be harsh sagging and it didn't. I'd still like to get Bilstein HD shocks back there at some point.

that's more of a function of springs than shocks though.   

since it's toyota, shocks are probably rated to 300,000 km... at full load....  on off road trail.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

The day I got about 800 lb of stuff from IKEA, I expected the rear of my Sequoia to be harsh sagging and it didn't. I'd still like to get Bilstein HD shocks back there at some point.

I've got Bilsteins on mine 

[KD]

Fiatsler finally releases something that doesn't need 707 HP to make it interesting.

I dunno....I don't find it interesting.   

It's just another pickup truck.  Yawn.   

Hey, I don't come on the fancy beige Toyota reviews and make fun of them 

Pickup trucks about as interesting as beige commuter appliances...so maybe you should actually be cheerleading in some of those threads too?   

Good idea<looks for latest Lexus review>

Camry TRD article might do in a pinch!!   

I just saw that  Saw a Caravan R/T on the way too work as well. What a time to be living in. Still, its a Jeep, the roof comes off, and its a pickup truck, consider me happy, no matter how hard you try to rain on my parade.

I'll just slide this in here...

https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=102648.msg1403477#msg1403477

[dirtyjeffer]

It was a 2018 model (JL).

you sure it was a JL?...i would imagine the rental fleets would be 2018 JKs, not JLs.

[dkaz]

I just saw that  Saw a Caravan R/T on the way too work as well. What a time to be living in. Still, its a Jeep, the roof comes off, and its a pickup truck, consider me happy, no matter how hard you try to rain on my parade.

I'll just slide this in here...

https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=102648.msg1403477#msg1403477

DOUBLE STANDARD! 

[tooscoops]

It was a 2018 model (JL).

you sure it was a JL?...i would imagine the rental fleets would be 2018 JKs, not JLs.

I was thinking that... most rental fleets are using the JK's still... they'll get some JL for sure, but not that many... and cheap wouldn't be the first thing that came to mind in one if it's the new guy... JK, I totally get it.


anyway, we have a few promised to the dealership... I'm going to put my name on one, but we'll see whether I go through with it... I've got 52k on my wrangler now... that's like a record for me. plus, almost paid off too... it's calling to me!

[Great_Big_Abyss]

It was a 2018 model (JL).

you sure it was a JL?...i would imagine the rental fleets would be 2018 JKs, not JLs.

I was thinking that... most rental fleets are using the JK's still... they'll get some JL for sure, but not that many... and cheap wouldn't be the first thing that came to mind in one if it's the new guy... JK, I totally get it.


anyway, we have a few promised to the dealership... I'm going to put my name on one, but we'll see whether I go through with it... I've got 52k on my wrangler now... that's like a record for me. plus, almost paid off too... it's calling to me!

Can your vehicle's get subsidized a little by the dealer as work vehicles?

[HeliDriver]

Yeah, but it should never hang ass-end low like that. Most trucks sit a little higher in the rear so that it levels out with a load. And if that’s not enough, time for a weight-distributing hitch.

OT, but this video I watched the other day made me think of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CbWkfCA9tc

Yeah, that got quite a bit of play. Saw a bit on the evening news, even.

Pretty crazy down there. First of all, that fire departments have their own helicopters, and second, just how much stuff is down there. We fly on fires in the hills, too, but you generally never see much more than a trapper's cabin. My favourite are the videos where they poach some guys swimming pool to fill the water bucket!    (okay, maybe that was Mexico  )

[rrocket]

Cool pic, but it looks like the rear is sagging.

I pointed that out in post #4 with the RV.

[tooscoops]

It was a 2018 model (JL).

you sure it was a JL?...i would imagine the rental fleets would be 2018 JKs, not JLs.

I was thinking that... most rental fleets are using the JK's still... they'll get some JL for sure, but not that many... and cheap wouldn't be the first thing that came to mind in one if it's the new guy... JK, I totally get it.


anyway, we have a few promised to the dealership... I'm going to put my name on one, but we'll see whether I go through with it... I've got 52k on my wrangler now... that's like a record for me. plus, almost paid off too... it's calling to me!

Can your vehicle's get subsidized a little by the dealer as work vehicles?

not really... but they allow employees to usually buy at the same price they could if it was a dealer demonstrator/loaner. so kind of.

[Blueprint]

The tow rating is a bit of a head-scratcher for me    How can they go from 3500lbs for the Wrangler Unlimited to 7650lbs for this on basically the same platform, that's an increase of 4000lbs, more than double!!!

Actually, just googled it... and here's how

For starters, the Gladiator features a new frame not shared with Wrangler that's a whopping 31 inches longer than the one under the Wrangler Unlimited. The wheelbase of the Gladiator is also 19.4 inches longer than a Wrangler Unlimited. The Gladiator continues to use solid front and rear axles, both of which are Dana 44s in two available track widths, but the rear five-link coil suspension is a unique design developed for better ride quality.

Makes sense now, it's got a lot more wheelbase and a different frame. Here's a cool pic

I want the one that's on the trailer ! 

[Gurgie]

I want the one that's on the trailer ! 

Found one for you... slightly improved upon even!! 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-jeep-grand-wagoneer-22/

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Grand Wagoneers are experiencing a resurgence in popularity, and even not-so-good condition ones are starting to fetch high prices. 

[johngenx]

Grand Wagoneers are experiencing a resurgence in popularity, and even not-so-good condition ones are starting to fetch high prices.

Almost any late model one is a $30K buy now. Crazy.

[dkaz]

Maybe because of the show "This Is Us"?

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Maybe because of the show "This Is Us"?

I don't think that's the reason. 

It's a combination of reasons, but mostly that the Grand Wagoneer is now old enough that it has reached 'classic car' status, and you don't see them on the road anymore as daily drivers. 

[dkaz]

I guess This Is Us is no Breaking Bad.

[Fobroader]

Maybe because of the show "This Is Us"?

I don't think that's the reason. 

It's a combination of reasons, but mostly that the Grand Wagoneer is now old enough that it has reached 'classic car' status, and you don't see them on the road anymore as daily drivers.

Well a fully restored one is a much bigger status symbol than some horrid "suv coupe".