Topic: Test Drive: 2019 Chevrolet Bolt

[AutoTrader.ca]

What’s wrong with you people….

Full article.

[dirtyjeffer]

the test car is likely how i'd spec it too, but the article is correct...$53k buys an awful lot of gas...you can likely get a very well equipped 2020 Corolla Hybrid for $25k and pocket the difference...the ROI is likely long past your burial.

[johngenx]

When these are $25-30K, the EV market will begin to rapidly displace ICEs.

[ChaosphereIX]

way too much money for an EV Sonic

[dirtyjeffer]

way too much money for an EV Sonic

it's a nicer car than a sonic, but that battery is likely $25k of the price...as john mentioned, if these were $25-$30k, they would sell like mad.

[Seafoam]

Maybe if there were a few on lots they would sell more. Only one I've seen was on a GM lot in Moncton.
People don't want them anyway. They want trucks apparently.

[dirtyjeffer]

Maybe if there were a few on lots they would sell more. Only one I've seen was on a GM lot in Moncton.
People don't want them anyway. They want trucks apparently.

this...they'd sell more if they had supply...when the rebates here were on ($14,000), the waiting list for one was something like 4 months, hence they didn't sell many...now the rebates are gone, they'll likely never sell them now (here).

meanwhile, Toyota sells pretty much every hybrid they make, without government incentives (rebates) and without 0%/84 months, plus they have 40 of them on the lot to choose from so you can buy today and drive it home in a couple of days.

[johngenx]

Between the Volt and Bolt GM has built some very interesting cars, and does nothing to market them and puts zero effort into selling them.

[dirtyjeffer]

Between the Volt and Bolt GM has built some very interesting cars, and does nothing to market them and puts zero effort into selling them.

EVs only sell when the government is throwing money at them...since there's little in incentives now, the sales plummet.

think about it...pretend you are a buyer right now...you want a compact, fuel efficient vehicle...would you spend about $25k on a new Corolla Hybrid, of $53k on this Bolt?...i like the Bolt as much as the next guy, but i'm not spending $53k for it...and GM knows it, hence the lack of advertising for it.

[CSH]

Between the Volt and Bolt GM has built some very interesting cars, and does nothing to market them and puts zero effort into selling them.

EVs only sell when the government is throwing money at them...since there's little in incentives now, the sales plummet.

think about it...pretend you are a buyer right now...you want a compact, fuel efficient vehicle...would you spend about $25k on a new Corolla Hybrid, of $53k on this Bolt?...i like the Bolt as much as the next guy, but i'm not spending $53k for it...and GM knows it, hence the lack of advertising for it.

Then why make it all all?
Sometimes i feel that GM  Produces/Markets the vehicle with the specific intention of killing it sooner than later..

[Seafoam]

Between the Volt and Bolt GM has built some very interesting cars, and does nothing to market them and puts zero effort into selling them.

EVs only sell when the government is throwing money at them...since there's little in incentives now, the sales plummet.

think about it...pretend you are a buyer right now...you want a compact, fuel efficient vehicle...would you spend about $25k on a new Corolla Hybrid, of $53k on this Bolt?...i like the Bolt as much as the next guy, but i'm not spending $53k for it...and GM knows it, hence the lack of advertising for it.

Then why make it all all?
Sometimes i feel that GM  Produces/Markets the vehicle with the specific intention of killing it sooner than later..

C'mon now GM can still  use it as a Pace Car in Nascar.

Last weekend Ford had an Escape or an Edge for the final race of the season. Maybe they should start a new class.

[ChaosphereIX]

if GM actually marketed the Volt, it would sell better...despite the loss of incentives (Ont)

it is the perfect commuter for right now. That is very attractive to a lot of people.

[EV-Light]

if GM actually marketed the Volt, it would sell better...despite the loss of incentives (Ont)

it is the perfect commuter for right now. That is very attractive to a lot of people.

I think you are wrong about that....any person walking into a dealer with $45k, will not be looking to buy a compact hatchback.

There’s certainly a small market for it though.


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[ChaosphereIX]

if GM actually marketed the Volt, it would sell better...despite the loss of incentives (Ont)

it is the perfect commuter for right now. That is very attractive to a lot of people.

I think you are wrong about that....any person walking into a dealer with $45k, will not be looking to buy a compact hatchback.

There’s certainly a small market for it though.


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right, what was I thinking...

best commuter is a F-150. Should unleash my inner Albertan.

[Gurgie]

My friend's father was trying to buy a Bolt last year before the incentive went away in Ontario... went to a couple dealers in the GTA to test drive one... none had one, nor did they know when they were getting one. The allotment for Canada was pretty small... I think they could sell more of these if they were available 

[dirtyjeffer]

My friend's father was trying to buy a Bolt last year before the incentive went away in Ontario... went to a couple dealers in the GTA to test drive one... none had one, nor did they know when they were getting one. The allotment for Canada was pretty small... I think they could sell more of these if they were available 

if they had better availability and the rebates were still on, they would move some...however, even when the rebates were on, they were non-existent at dealerships and the lead time was a few months...no test drives, no sitting in one at the dealership while you look around, nothing...read online, decide you want one, then order it...the amount of people likely OK with that purchase method is tiny...the only time i saw one was at the Lifestyle Home Show late last year where there was a couple brought to demonstrate their EV cars...that's great, but no one can buy them...and since the rebate left, no dealer will order one as they'll likely never sell it now...don't get me wrong, it's a great car, but at $53k, it's an extremely tough sell...as i said, you can likely get a nicely optioned Corolla Hybrid next for $25k...sure, you still have to put gas in it and all the other ICE stuff (oil changes, etc), but that $25-$30k savings makes it a lot more affordable for people to purchase.

[quadzilla]

you can likely get a nicely optioned Corolla Hybrid next for $25k

When and where can I buy this car?

[johngenx]

you can likely get a nicely optioned Corolla Hybrid next for $25k

When and where can I buy this car?

There seems to be some solid rumours that the next gen 'Rolla will land in North America finally offering the hybrid version to us. Based on how the new model is being priced elsewhere, the hybrid should be about $25K if the relative pricing to other models stays roughly the same.

The new Corolla is being launched elsewhere as a 2019. We get it for 2020.

Btw, the specs for the hybrid in other markets give it a combined economy rating of 3.4L/100km. You read that right. Mid 3s combined rating.  Yurp gets a 1.6L non-hybrid gas model with a combined city/highway of only 5.8.

I see why diesels are dying. Gasoline tech has leaped forward, big time. Hybrids and efficient all-ICE cars are pushing economy boundaries we didn't think would happen before EVs took over. I don't think it will be too long before PHEVs will be common and available for well under $30K.

[quadzilla]

Btw, the specs for the hybrid in other markets give it a combined economy rating of 3.4L/100km. You read that right. Mid 3s combined rating. 

Inconceivable! 

Hopefully the same drivetrain also makes it to the hatch.

[Seafoam]

I think 25 k is too low. My guess 28 similar to the Honda Insight Hybrid.