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The Italian Tune-Up
« on: November 19, 2018, 02:08:57 pm »
Can you really "blow the carbon out" of an engine?
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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 02:34:43 pm »
Good article. I've wondered about the relevance of "Italian tune-ups".

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 02:38:46 pm »
An Italian tune up isn't just about carbon deposits at all. Yes, to prevent carbon etc. in the valves especially for DI engines, it is good oil, good service, and occasionally longer runs getting the car up to temp.

For Italian cars of old, especially ones with port injection and solid tappets, they NEED to be occasionally driven hard to quieten down the tappets, and re-lubricate the hydraulic ones. There is great benefit of running a car hard occasionally. I personally have seen the benefits on my Busso, where I was told by the Euro community that occasional runs to redline are healthy for an Italian engine, and keeping them in the low rev range and low load their entire lives is actually bad for the engine. My Busso revved faster and felt stronger after a good hard run. It felt snappier. The tappets were a lot quieter. Engines are designed to run up to redline (when properly warmed up of course). You will not destroy your engine by revving it out occasionally.

Mind you, Italian tune ups are really meant for Italian cars really. They are meant to be revved out, they love to be thrashed and thank you for it. Other makes, or lazy big V8s or modern DI boosted little 4cyls running lean will probably see no benefit from it.

The Italian tune up is best for Italian cars, and particularly old ones.
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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 03:07:04 pm »
The best way now to get rid of carbon and deposits in an engine is to use a fuel additive with PEA in it.
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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 03:17:12 pm »
A relevant video on carbon deposit issues:

https://youtu.be/5C9Ie4BcYew

While my car doesn't have valves as in piston valves, it does have valves for the multi-stage induction system to open different number of ports depending on the RPM(think VTEC for a rotary), and revving the car up often actuates them, which prevents these valves from accumulating too much carbon and sticking.

And it's not really like the car has much low-end to start with. Have to rev it up to get real power.

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 03:19:26 pm »
blow the carbon out...LOL...part of what made me chuckle is i thought of my Rio5...under WOT, it will "blow the carbon out"...but not in a cleaning way...likely just some unburnt fuel being passed through the system (relatively common on DI engines during WOT)...it seems to occur right at the time the variable valve timing kicks in.
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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 03:31:50 pm »
Justin, is your Dad Tyler Hoovie? 

Hoovie thinks the Buick Park Avenue Ultra is the best car ever.


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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 03:33:11 pm »
love that video, and he does have a point really - it is a fantastic cheap car

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 03:37:24 pm »
love that video, and he does have a point really - it is a fantastic cheap car

It's a running joke:  Hoovie and Doug do a collab series called 'Doug and Hoovie talk about cars' where its just the two of them sitting in chairs talking about whatever car they think is best in any given category.

Tyler Hoovie ALWAYS says the Buick Park Avenue Ultra, no matter what the category. 

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 01:50:49 pm »
love that video, and he does have a point really - it is a fantastic cheap car

It's a running joke:  Hoovie and Doug do a collab series called 'Doug and Hoovie talk about cars' where its just the two of them sitting in chairs talking about whatever car they think is best in any given category.

Tyler Hoovie ALWAYS says the Buick Park Avenue Ultra, no matter what the category.

Does it share a platform with any of the Cadillacs?

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 02:20:22 pm »
love that video, and he does have a point really - it is a fantastic cheap car

You should buy one.

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Re: The Italian Tune-Up
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 02:23:45 pm »
love that video, and he does have a point really - it is a fantastic cheap car

You should buy one.
I am open to it honestly. I loved my first car, a Pontiac Grand Prix.