Topic: First Drive: 2019 Toyota Avalon

[AutoTrader.ca]

Where Toyota ends and Lexus begins?
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[Jaeger]

Wow.  The Lexus grille is actually less fugly.  That almost never happens. 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Terrific car saddled with a terrible fascia. I don't know what Toyota is thinking.

[OliverD]

The side profile is a bit odd too.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

I wish designers would stop with the superfluous character lines.

I was watching Demuro's take on the Ferrari Superfast, and he basically made the same point about the styling being overly fussy.

[HeliDriver]

This is a quote about how Mercedes styled the new A-Class.

“Design Chief Gorden Wegner said if you like it, take a line off. If you still like it, take another line off. That left the simple side profile with a sloping nose, shoulder line, and a character line near the bottom of the doors.”

I bet the Toyota design brief is “Keep piling on the superfluous crap until nobody can stand to look at it anymore. Then pile on some extra, just for good measure.” 

[mlin32]

Terrific car saddled with a terrible fascia. I don't know what Toyota is thinking.

Probably looked good on the computer models. No one thought about how it'd look in reality, it was Friday at 16h in California- time to hit the beach, then just hit "Print".

[Fobroader]

Terrific car saddled with a terrible fascia. I don't know what Toyota is thinking.

Yeah, at least with the Camry you can get the "sport" option and make the front end not as terrible.

[rrocket]

Yeah, at least with the Camry you can get the "sport" option and make the front end not as terrible.

They have the sport grille with the Avalon too..

[dkaz]

The Sport looks so good.

[mlin32]

Why do cars have to look so angry ?

[dkaz]

Mazda tried making a happy car and everyone blasted it.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

This is a quote about how Mercedes styled the new A-Class.

“Design Chief Gorden Wegner said if you like it, take a line off. If you still like it, take another line off. That left the simple side profile with a sloping nose, shoulder line, and a character line near the bottom of the doors.”

I bet the Toyota design brief is “Keep piling on the superfluous crap until nobody can stand to look at it anymore. Then pile on some extra, just for good measure.” 

^ I like this guy. The A-Class does look fine.

For that matter, the Corolla hatch looks pretty good too. The front could be toned down a bit, but it's a little hatch and it kinda suits the demographic.
The Avalon and Camry look silly with enormous grills and random creases.

[dirtyjeffer]

This is a quote about how Mercedes styled the new A-Class.

“Design Chief Gorden Wegner said if you like it, take a line off. If you still like it, take another line off. That left the simple side profile with a sloping nose, shoulder line, and a character line near the bottom of the doors.”

I bet the Toyota design brief is “Keep piling on the superfluous crap until nobody can stand to look at it anymore. Then pile on some extra, just for good measure.” 

^ I like this guy. The A-Class does look fine.

For that matter, the Corolla hatch looks pretty good too. The front could be toned down a bit, but it's a little hatch and it kinda suits the demographic.
The Avalon and Camry look silly with enormous grills and random creases.

i haven't heard that it is coming to Canada, but the new Audi A1 looks good to me as well.

https://www.audi.com/en/models/a1.html

[mlin32]

Mazda tried making a happy car and everyone blasted it.

I’m thinking Renault Clio, Ford Fiesta, and even larger cars from say, Alfa Romeo or PSA don’t have a scowl threatens to scare children.

But just my 0,02€ .......

[dkaz]

  I've never heard of angry cars scaring off children. I am occasionally intimidated by Mitsubishi Lancers in my rear view mirror however.

[CanuckS2K]

Terrific car saddled with a terrible fascia. I don't know what Toyota is thinking.

Me neither.  Lexus is pretty bad, but this is absolutely horrible......probably the worst front fascia I've seen.  I'd give Acura's beak of a few years ago a 10 against this.   

[Guy]

 

[dkaz]

Me neither.  Lexus is pretty bad, but this is absolutely horrible......probably the worst front fascia I've seen.  I'd give Acura's beak of a few years ago a 10 against this.

Wow, no, not even comparable.

[CanuckS2K]

Me neither.  Lexus is pretty bad, but this is absolutely horrible......probably the worst front fascia I've seen.  I'd give Acura's beak of a few years ago a 10 against this.

Wow, no, not even comparable.

You're absolutely right about one thing......they are not even comparable.......