Topic: Test Drive: 2019 Ram 1500 Limited

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Half-ton, full luxury.
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[Ex-airbalancer]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

[ChaosphereIX]

somehow a truck that focuses on luxury refinements seems out of place to me, even if it is almost $90k

but then again, these are mostly bought by urban cowboys who wash them every third day and they rarely if ever see actual truck work - I have 4 neighbours within a block that prove this theory

[Seafoam]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

Would not have to tow anything if the motorcycle  had actually fit in the tiny box.  Must be why i see more and more trucks towing because the boxes are too damn short.

[ChaosphereIX]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

Would not have to tow anything if the motorcycle  had actually fit in the tiny box.  Must be why i see more and more trucks towing because the boxes are too damn short.

because it has to have a quad cab with all the appointments and enough back seat room and luxury to rival a Rolls. No room left for a bed unless you want it to be 230ft long.

[JacobBlack]

I used to agree with you, then I began racing. Loading and unloading a bike, plus the luggage for the weekend, tool boxes, parts, tires etc, the trailer is the way to go.

[Gurgie]

That's quite the rig! And if I were in the market for a truck, this would be at the top of the list! Warts & all 

[dkaz]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

Yup, a Corolla could tow that and use half the fuel.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I used to agree with you, then I began racing. Loading and unloading a bike, plus the luggage for the weekend, tool boxes, parts, tires etc, the trailer is the way to go.

Is it a box trailer ?
A sheet metal contractor friend has Rams, with ecodiesel and tows a 10 ft box trailer to job sites all the time
They are in the 15 L/100km range

[JacobBlack]

Mountains of Quebec and Nova Scotia are a lot more demanding than urban city streets, mate. Your buddy is towing at low speeds on flat ground.

Yes it's a box trailer, and is actually a 5x10 with a 6.8ft interior height. 3500 gvwr

[OliverD]

I shouldn't be shocked by the sticker price but it does indicate that it will be very easy to option the new 2500 diesel to over $100k.

I remember when the 1999 Silverado debuted and I thought it was pretty crazy that those could be optioned to about $45k. 

[Ex-airbalancer]

I shouldn't be shocked by the sticker price but it does indicate that it will be very easy to option the new 2500 diesel to over $100k.

I remember when the 1999 Silverado debuted and I thought it was pretty crazy that those could be optioned to about $45k. 

My 2011 Chevy LTZ was only $35,000 after rebates

[OliverD]

I shouldn't be shocked by the sticker price but it does indicate that it will be very easy to option the new 2500 diesel to over $100k.

I remember when the 1999 Silverado debuted and I thought it was pretty crazy that those could be optioned to about $45k. 

My 2011 Chevy LTZ was only $35,000 after rebates

Sticker was likely close to $50k though, right?

Edit: Looked it up, an extended cab 4x4 LTZ was $48,395 without options.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

We got 18L/100km in a 6.2L, GMC 2500, 4x4 crew cab with four guys on board, a full bed, and a loaded up 12' dual axle cargo trailer a couple of weekends ago.

[greengs]

somehow a truck that focuses on luxury refinements seems out of place to me, even if it is almost $90k

but then again, these are mostly bought by urban cowboys who wash them every third day and they rarely if ever see actual truck work - I have 4 neighbours within a block that prove this theory

That's what the market wants.  It's not just urban cowboys since the half ton crew cab short bed truck is basically a family vehicle in a lot of places in USA and Canada.

[ChaosphereIX]

somehow a truck that focuses on luxury refinements seems out of place to me, even if it is almost $90k

but then again, these are mostly bought by urban cowboys who wash them every third day and they rarely if ever see actual truck work - I have 4 neighbours within a block that prove this theory

That's what the market wants.  It's not just urban cowboys since the half ton crew cab short bed truck is basically a family vehicle in a lot of places in USA and Canada.

but an expensive and gas guzzling truck for a family vehicle, just because 'Murica...when a sedan, wagon, or even hell a CUV could do the job...doesn't make sense to me

will have to ask my neighbours why they have their trucks

[Fobroader]

"our little eight-foot trailer towing a single motorbike"

That does not count as tow something 

  18.2 L/100 km.

That is terrible !

We got 18L/100km in a 6.2L GMC 4x4 crew cab with four guys on board, a full bed, and a loaded up 12' dual axle cargo trailer a couple of weekends ago.

I was in the 20-22L range with our 30+ foot camper trailer. So this thing can't tow well, cant put anything in the box...whats the point?? 6.5" box should be the minimum, that way you can still put 8 foot pieces of lumber, drywall...whatever. These 5 foot and change boxes are utterly useless, my wife has that on her work truck F150 and its easier most times to pick stuff up with the Montero or the Jeep.

[tooscoops]

I have a similar one on my lot, and man.. it really is nice. I'd love to try out the etorque system soon though... getting antsy. I took our hemi out for my usual few km test, and it was getting 11.8l/100 fresh out of the box... so I would imagine that hilly terrain and the wind resistance from the trailer were the culprits for that awful fuel economy. I rarely get people in the last gen getting that kind of fuel numbers with a similar trailer and the hemi...

anyway, a bit surprised at the noise comment. while I found our trucks pretty quiet in the last gen, there is a noticeable difference in these ones (for the better)... so I'd say there is something, be it the trailer or environmental things, causing that increase in noise.

while there aren't huge rebates/incentives on these trucks at the moment (2500 discount, 2500 for truck loyalty and low/0% finance offerings), a top trim truck does have a bit of room for "negotiation"!

one thing I've noticed with this level of truck... the 12" is nice and all... but I think it's overboard. especially as I've noticed an increase in "glitches" since the addition of apple/android stuff as well as the Sirius guardian... all these programs seem to cause freezes and issues. I love em while they work, but I can't imagine they are a great long term plan for people who used to keep their trucks for 15 years.

[Fobroader]

I have a similar one on my lot, and man.. it really is nice. I'd love to try out the etorque system soon though... getting antsy. I took our hemi out for my usual few km test, and it was getting 11.8l/100 fresh out of the box... so I would imagine that hilly terrain and the wind resistance from the trailer were the culprits for that awful fuel economy. I rarely get people in the last gen getting that kind of fuel numbers with a similar trailer and the hemi...

anyway, a bit surprised at the noise comment. while I found our trucks pretty quiet in the last gen, there is a noticeable difference in these ones (for the better)... so I'd say there is something, be it the trailer or environmental things, causing that increase in noise.

while there aren't huge rebates/incentives on these trucks at the moment (2500 discount, 2500 for truck loyalty and low/0% finance offerings), a top trim truck does have a bit of room for "negotiation"!

one thing I've noticed with this level of truck... the 12" is nice and all... but I think it's overboard. especially as I've noticed an increase in "glitches" since the addition of apple/android stuff as well as the Sirius guardian... all these programs seem to cause freezes and issues. I love em while they work, but I can't imagine they are a great long term plan for people who used to keep their trucks for 15 years.

Its a Ram without a 5.9 Cummins...no worries about what its going to be doing 15 years from now, maybe like 7-8 years...maybe. 

[Firm]

So I have both a big SUV (Escalade) and a pickup (Ram Quad Cab, 6.5' box) and the Escalade is waay better as a family vehicle, mostly for the massive covered and secure cargo area. We keep the baby stroller, diaper bag, extra clothing (jackets and stuff), some spare tool, etc all in the cargo area, and there is still plenty of room for groceries and whatever else.

The Ram, being a quad cab, doesn't have the biggest rear seat area, but it will easily take 3 adults and has convenient storage under the bench....But when it comes to hauling stuff like stroller, clothes and other stuff that needs to stay dry and secure it's not ideal; even with the fancy retracting tonneau cover.

For what it's worth, the Escalade also rides better, can tow almost as much, and will do 95% of what the Ram could do.....So I agree that an proper SUV (not raised compact hatchback) is a better family hauler than a pickup.

That said, I do enjoy having a pickup around, it's very comfortable for what it is, and the ability to toss dirty car parts, wheels, etc in the bed without concern is something I take advantage of fairly often.


I somewhat regularly tow a 6x12 box trailer with the Ram (5.7L HEMI), not sure what the loaded weight is, but the truck handles it with ease and averages roughly 19L/100km with the trailer....14.5L/100km is my average without the trailer.


Edit: I have this 2019 presser (likely the same truck) booked next week - Excited to try it, and I should be able to do a decent comparison vs. the previous gen.