Topic: Day-by-Day Review: 2016 Honda HR-V; Day 1

[mlin32]

Whoops, I just realised the HR-V is Europe gets the 1,5 litre (130PS) Direct Injection Earth Dreams motor with comb.  consumption of 5,6 l/100km and 130 g/km. Still good for a 192km/h top end, so I don't see a problem with that motor in terms of output. Then again, I don't know how the new Earth Dreams engines feel compared to their predecessors, hopefully a little more torque feel in the midrange.

The only motor I had that felt underpowered was the rubbish 1,2 base petrol motor in the Fiat 500 making 69PS and no torque whatsoever. The 75 PS diesel/5MT combo I had in the Renault Clio was fine even as I drove into the mountains of Isère. Correct gearchoice was needed (no 2nd gear rolling starts), a little bit of wringing up the forest road, but no sweat there.

[Solstice2006]

Used to be true.  But less so now.  With more "world cars".  The Europeans may get their diesel powertrains, but quite a few cars that are the same in North America and Europe.

Same car, same platform, different engines.

The Honda Fit/Jazz get's the updated "Earth Dreams" 1,3 litre DOHC/i-VTEC Atkinson cycle petrol in other markets with 102 PS; although that would require premium fuel on account of its 13,5 Compression ratio (95 RON). Same top speed. Plus it's configurable with all the latest driver assistants, disc brakes all-round, rain/light sensor, and more.

oh gosh...no! Europeans always get this tiny/under-powered engines in their pedestrian cars! If the 1.8 is slow in the HRV, I can only imagine how much SLOWER the 1.5 Europe gets is.

I agree, with 4 people on board, do they have to help you push it up long uphill stretches?? 

^ Sure but it's a social event thing.  Like here when idiots drive around in the winter with their sports cars, are SUV's driving too fast, thinking they can drive through anything, and get stuck.  So we all get out in push. 

[dkaz]

Fuel econ is higher than CX-3 due to transmission differences. 
CX-3 FWD auto: 8.2/6.7
HR-V FWD manual: 9.3/7.0
HR-V FWD auto: 8.3/6.7

No wonder manuals are a dying breed 

They upshift at a higher RPM like 3,500 RPM or something.

[PJ]

Fuel econ is higher than CX-3 due to transmission differences. 
CX-3 FWD auto: 8.2/6.7
HR-V FWD manual: 9.3/7.0
HR-V FWD auto: 8.3/6.7

No wonder manuals are a dying breed 

Manuals are still more efficient in most cases then automatics but they are more difficult to program to get maximum results on EPA tests. 

The reason manual are less common is they require some skill and effort.  Most people see driving as a chore and thus want it as simple and effortless as possible.

Even simple things like unlocking doors, turning on headlights or staying in a lane is too much effort these days.

[HeliDriver]

Fuel econ is higher than CX-3 due to transmission differences. 
CX-3 FWD auto: 8.2/6.7
HR-V FWD manual: 9.3/7.0
HR-V FWD auto: 8.3/6.7

No wonder manuals are a dying breed 

Manuals are still more efficient in most cases then automatics but they are more difficult to program to get maximum results on EPA tests. 

The reason manual are less common is they require some skill and effort.  Most people see driving as a chore and thus want it as simple and effortless as possible.

Even simple things like unlocking doors, turning on headlights or staying in a lane is too much effort these days.

My manual GTI has a little shift indicator on the MFD that tells me when to up or downshift. I don't pay any attention to it, because it's ridiculous - it would have me shift into 6th at 60 km/h.

I read somewhere that it's for the EPA test: if the manufacturer provides any sort of shift indicator, then that's what the EPA follows for the test, otherwise they shift according to their standard test protocol. Point being that it's very easy for the manufacturer to "program" the manual to do well on the test.

[northsparrow]

I doubt many  European customers will order the HR-V with the 1.5 petrol engine when they have the 1.6 Diesel option.

[EV-Light]

^^ oh Gosh! Still underpowered...although the torque at 2k must help a bit


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