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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2015, 01:09:44 pm »
Can't argue economic reality as the other manufacturers setting up, or already there, can attest. The 'perceived' quality issue is just that and selective imo.
Well, this represents one of what may, or may not be examples in support of that perception.
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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2015, 11:13:35 pm »
Can't argue economic reality as the other manufacturers setting up, or already there, can attest. The 'perceived' quality issue is just that and selective imo.
Well, this represents one of what may, or may not be example in support of that perception.
i'm not sure what a faulty fuel valve has to do with where the car is assembled...as i've said before, the robots and automation at the new plants in Mexico are the same as the ones used here, and throughout the USA...an ABB robot, a Schuler press and a Siemens PLC are all the same regardless of the country they're installed in.
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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2015, 08:51:08 am »
^^^ This. I am curious also, but knowing ignorance runs deep I likely won't be surprised.

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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2015, 07:51:58 pm »
Can't argue economic reality as the other manufacturers setting up, or already there, can attest. The 'perceived' quality issue is just that and selective imo.
Well, this represents one of what may, or may not be example in support of that perception.
i'm not sure what a faulty fuel valve has to do with where the car is assembled...as i've said before, the robots and automation at the new plants in Mexico are the same as the ones used here, and throughout the USA...an ABB robot, a Schuler press and a Siemens PLC are all the same regardless of the country they're installed in.

As I was saying, it was reported in trade publications that Mazda had various quality control issues with everything being new - the plant, the workers, the suppliers, the relation with the suppliers. It's normal with a blank-sheet project such as this one, as Mazda did not have a foothold in Mexico prior to this. Like Nissan, GM, VW, Ford, FCA and others, things will improve over time.

I drove a Mexican-built Nissan for 6 years and it was pretty flawless, and I just bought another Mexican-built car, the Golf, probably the best-built vehicle I ever owned.
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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2015, 12:17:19 am »
As I was saying, it was reported in trade publications that Mazda had various quality control issues with everything being new - the plant, the workers, the suppliers, the relation with the suppliers. It's normal with a blank-sheet project such as this one, as Mazda did not have a foothold in Mexico prior to this. Like Nissan, GM, VW, Ford, FCA and others, things will improve over time.

I drove a Mexican-built Nissan for 6 years and it was pretty flawless, and I just bought another Mexican-built car, the Golf, probably the best-built vehicle I ever owned.
agreed...those initial issues have more to do with everything being new, not with it being in Mexico...if it were located in South Carolina, they'd likely have similar issues until all the kinks are worked out.

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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2015, 12:06:10 pm »
Expect other issues like these as the relationship between Mazda and its new Mexican suppliers ramps up to speed. For those who don't know yet: NA-market Mazda3's are built in Mexico, along with the upcoming new Mazda2, and the Toyota Yaris sedan / Scion iA twins. The plant is brand new, Mazda's first in that country, so learning curve ahead.

GTs are built in Japan.

80% then are Echo in Mexico, if not more. GTs are pretty rare.

Lol, hecho en Mexico.

No, no: Echo in Mexico  ;D


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Re: Mazda3 so hot it catches fire...stop-sale order
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2015, 07:36:37 pm »

No, no: Echo in Mexico  ;D


meh...likely a failed ball joint or suspension link...happens to people who often don't have their vehicles maintained or checked out regularly...quite often, they clunk and make a lot of noise before failing.