Topic: Consumer Reports Reliability Rankings

[Ex-airbalancer]

Do they give a number of car reporting ?

[Blue01]

Considering where Chrysler is sitting in reliabilty, and where they have sat for many years now, I only wish the Canadian and US governments had not bailed them out.  Just let them die, a natural and capitalistic death.

[TopGun]

Look at the range that some brands have vs. others.

With Porsche for example, I interpret a large range as "some are really good and some are really bad"...yet it doesn't seem to be considered in the ranking.

[Frontier1]

Considering where Chrysler is sitting in reliabilty, and where they have sat for many years now, I only wish the Canadian and US governments had not bailed them out.  Just let them die, a natural and capitalistic death.

  Canadian and American workers, families, children, businesses, taxpayers, voters, etc etc, thank you...duh

[No H2O]

...have at least average reliability....

And what exactly is "average reliability"? 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

...have at least average reliability....

And what exactly is "average reliability"? 

The average reliability is based on the number of problems reported by a survey of 1.3 million CR subscribers over the last 10 years.

[No H2O]

The average reliability is based on the number of problems reported by a survey of 1.3 million CR subscribers over the last 10 years.

So if there are a large number of issues in a large number of different cars, a car that is better than average may not be all that good.

In 11 years completed, I've needed to replace my catalytic converter, both front upper A-arms with built-in ball joints and both front and rear stabilizer links. Not bad in 196,000 kms.

[Ex-airbalancer]

The average reliability is based on the number of problems reported by a survey of 1.3 million CR subscribers over the last 10 years.

So if there are a large number of issues in a large number of different cars, a car that is better than average may not be all that good.

In 11 years completed, I've needed to replace my catalytic converter, both front upper A-arms with built-in ball joints and both front and rear stabilizer links. Not bad in 196,000 kms.

that more then I have done to truck at 7 years 202,000km

[Sir Osis of Liver]

The average reliability is based on the number of problems reported by a survey of 1.3 million CR subscribers over the last 10 years.

So if there are a large number of issues in a large number of different cars, a car that is better than average may not be all that good.

In 11 years completed, I've needed to replace my catalytic converter, both front upper A-arms with built-in ball joints and both front and rear stabilizer links. Not bad in 196,000 kms.

"Average" is a running 10 year average and is considerably higher than in the past. An average car these days is pretty reliable.

My 1992 Escort GT was 11 years old and had 250k on it when I sold it. Other than regular maintenance, I had to replace the flex pipe in the exhaust. That was it.

[sailor723]

The average reliability is based on the number of problems reported by a survey of 1.3 million CR subscribers over the last 10 years.

So if there are a large number of issues in a large number of different cars, a car that is better than average may not be all that good.

In 11 years completed, I've needed to replace my catalytic converter, both front upper A-arms with built-in ball joints and both front and rear stabilizer links. Not bad in 196,000 kms.

"Average" is a running 10 year average and is considerably higher than in the past. An average car these days is pretty reliable.

My 1992 Escort GT was 11 years old and had 250k on it when I sold it. Other than regular maintenance, I had to replace the flex pipe in the exhaust. That was it.

That's a good point that many people lose sight of when comparing these rankings. A mediocre car today is probably better than the best ranked car from 20-30 years ago.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

That's a good point that many people lose sight of when comparing these rankings. A mediocre car today is probably better than the best ranked car from 20-30 years ago.

Absolutely. A "much better than average" car from 1990 would be "much worse than average" today. CR actually stated that in one of their year end reports, though I forget which one.

[TopGun]

Absolutely. A "much better than average" car from 1990 would be "much worse than average" today. CR actually stated that in one of their year end reports, though I forget which one.

I don't care, I had a 1909 Somethingorother...it sucked...they lost me man!!!   

[No H2O]

that more then I have done to truck at 7 years 202,000km

Of course that depends if everything has been done to it to bring it to like-new condition. My car at 11 years is.

[jamie1]

Considering where Chrysler is sitting in reliabilty, and where they have sat for many years now, I only wish the Canadian and US governments had not bailed them out.  Just let them die, a natural and capitalistic death.

This coming from someone from the beautiful socialist state of BC.