Topic: Test Drive: 2018 Ford F-150 Power Stroke Turbo Diesel

[Fobroader]

The devil is in the details with these current diesels.   What's the fuel rail pressure on this motor    30K psi   Can the hood be opened while the engine is running? 

Under full and valid warranty these things are great.  Outside of warranty they can be horrible $$$$  particularly the emission systems.   They have a purpose but daily driver is not one of them.

The emissions systems will be promptly removed by any owner with half a brain. As for longevity.... 

[tortoise]

Having a payout of over 100,000 kms before taking into account the time value of $ up front is hard to justify in an era where a lot of people get new trucks every 5 years or less. 

For some people the diesel doesn't need to pay-off.  There is a benefit to how it drives and that's worth the cost.  Extra fuel efficiency is only part of the equation.

As per Firm's comments: The Diesel is incredible; so refined, nice linear power delivery - and lots of it, just excellent.

But yeah, the emissions systems are the Achilles heel of the modern diesel.

[dirtyjeffer]

The emissions systems will be promptly removed by any owner with half a brain. As for longevity.... 

maybe out in AB, but not here in ON...not only would that likely void your warranty (i'm assuming), it certainly won't pass emissions tests...i agree with ArticSteve in that they have a purpose (work truck), but a daily driver isn't what they would be ideal for.

[Seafoam]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

[KD]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

The 5.0L V8 in my F-150 company truck blew a few weeks ago, just before I went on vacation.  It had a knock in the engine that I complained about on last couple of scheduled maintenances and fleet wouldn't pay to have it fixed, so they shelled out $7k a few months later.   .   It had a little over 248k km. 

[dirtyjeffer]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

The 5.0L V8 in my F-150 company truck blew a few weeks ago, just before I went on vacation.  It had a knock in the engine that I complained about on last couple of scheduled maintenances and fleet wouldn't pay to have it fixed, so they shelled out $7k a few months later.   .   It had a little over 248k km.

that seems like an odd issue...i would have thought the 5.0L V8 was pretty durable.

[greengs]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

The 5.0L V8 in my F-150 company truck blew a few weeks ago, just before I went on vacation.  It had a knock in the engine that I complained about on last couple of scheduled maintenances and fleet wouldn't pay to have it fixed, so they shelled out $7k a few months later.   .   It had a little over 248k km.

that seems like an odd issue...i would have thought the 5.0L V8 was pretty durable.

It almost made it to 250k kms.  For a Ford that's extremely durable!   

[KD]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

The 5.0L V8 in my F-150 company truck blew a few weeks ago, just before I went on vacation.  It had a knock in the engine that I complained about on last couple of scheduled maintenances and fleet wouldn't pay to have it fixed, so they shelled out $7k a few months later.   .   It had a little over 248k km.

that seems like an odd issue...i would have thought the 5.0L V8 was pretty durable.

It almost made it to 250k kms.  For a Ford that's extremely durable!   

It does get extreme use, so there's that.  Also, we cannot bring vehicles in early for maintenance.  I brought my truck in for a service issue once and asked to have my oil changed as it was due within 1000 km and fleet refused.  We usually end up going way beyond the recommended maintenance interval just because we have such little down time. 

My old GMC 2500HD lasted less than 290K before it was sent to the boneyard. 

[ChaosphereIX]

$87k for this truck, and the interior looks like it belongs in a $40k trim...say what you will about the RAM, they nailed the interior...i still think it's the best new truck.

when you gauge a truck by its interior first, I think you are doing truck wrong 

powertrain, everything else is secondary

I personally would go GM, because generally they don't break.

[Fobroader]

Lets hope the diesel isn't like ford's previous efforts.

What do you possible mean, the 6L, 6.4 and 6.7 were absolutely "amazing" engines....once you put $5-8k worth of "bulletproofing into them 

You shouldn't have to spend extra to make it bulletproof. They were junk
7.3 wasn't bad

I absolutely agree with you. A Ford superduty with a cummins 5.9 24 valve is the ultimate heavy duty work truck in my mind. A GM with a Duramax is the best truck to pull your heavy toy hauler down the highway.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Really?  You would go 24v?  I thought for sure the 12v was the way to go.  Sure, it makes less power and less torque, but that's the one that is nigh on indestructible....

[Fobroader]

Really?  You would go 24v?  I thought for sure the 12v was the way to go.  Sure, it makes less power and less torque, but that's the one that is nigh on indestructible....

More ability to make power and just about as reliable. The 12V would make a great engine for an end of the world type rig. Need one wire to run it.

[dirtyjeffer]

$87k for this truck, and the interior looks like it belongs in a $40k trim...say what you will about the RAM, they nailed the interior...i still think it's the best new truck.

when you gauge a truck by its interior first, I think you are doing truck wrong 

powertrain, everything else is secondary

I personally would go GM, because generally they don't break.

not necessarily...a lot of truck buyers are buying trucks to replace sedans...they don't use them like trucks were used 30 years ago...that's why trucks today are not like how trucks were 30 years ago...considering a buyer is going to spend most of their time IN the truck, the interior is absolutely important...yes, powertrain, etc is also important, but all the big trucks are good that way....there's absolutely nothing wrong with the 5.7L V8 and 8sp auto in the RAM...it's a solid combo.

[BWII]

It almost made it to 250k kms.  For a Ford that's extremely durable!   

Ahh...hahahaha...