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BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« on: December 31, 2008, 10:56:40 am »
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 11:04:32 am »
looks like a 6 from the front. I'm like Meh. :-\

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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 12:01:23 pm »
I doubt we will see it in Canada, as hatches do not sell well in the US, and the Cdn market is too small on it's own to bring it to NA.

We do get the 535xiTouring sports wagon which does the job IMO.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 12:14:53 pm »
Quote from: ovr50 on December 31, 2008, 12:01:23 pm
I doubt we will see it in Canada, as hatches do not sell well in the US, and the Cdn market is too small on it's own to bring it to NA.

We do get the 535xiTouring sports wagon which does the job IMO.

The 5 Touring is brilliant, this not so much.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 12:38:48 pm »
It looks quite attractive, imo, which is more than can be said for the X6.  Not sure if there's enough of a market for this, though...  BMW will offer the 5 Touring, the slightly higher 5 PAS, and the slightly higher X6?  Seems like too many models for too few customers to me...  ???
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 07:56:43 pm »
Quote from: Demosthenes X on December 31, 2008, 12:38:48 pm
It looks quite attractive, imo, which is more than can be said for the X6.  Not sure if there's enough of a market for this, though...  BMW will offer the 5 Touring, the slightly higher 5 PAS, and the slightly higher X6?  Seems like too many models for too few customers to me...  ???

The PAS just kills me inside. What exactly is the point of that thing?

Are all manufacturers continually adjusting their lineup to match the whims of the ever more ancient baby boomers (ones who still think they're too young and hip for a Volvo).
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 11:19:08 pm »
Quote from: mmret on December 31, 2008, 07:56:43 pm

The PAS just kills me inside. What exactly is the point of that thing?

Are all manufacturers continually adjusting their lineup to match the whims of the ever more ancient baby boomers (ones who still think they're too young and hip for a Volvo).

They have money to spend.  Sounds like a good enough reason to cater to them.   

BMW could be copying the old Mazda6 line up of sedan, hatch, wagon.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2009, 01:06:57 am »
Quote from: dr_spock on December 31, 2008, 11:19:08 pm
BMW could be copying the old Mazda6 line up of sedan, hatch, wagon.

That Mazda chose to discontinue that approach would suggest it was not cost effective, no?  Ergo, BMW should not copy it.

OTOH, they're giving us crap like the X6, so...
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2009, 01:15:36 am »
"...they're giving us crap like the X6"

Not saying the X6 is a pretty car, but it seems that it handles extremely well and is a well-balanced vehicle (whatever it is). I don't think any vehicle with the bones of the X6 can be characterized as "crap", especially by those who not driven it.  ::)
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2009, 01:24:37 am »
Quote from: ovr50 on January 01, 2009, 01:15:36 am
"...they're giving us crap like the X6"

Not saying the X6 is a pretty car, but it seems that it handles extremely well and is a well-balanced vehicle (whatever it is). I don't think any vehicle with the bones of the X6 can be characterized as "crap", especially by those who not driven it.  ::)

I'm sure, being a BMW, it's good to drive.  I just don't see the point of it, and happen to think it looks like the bastard love child of a Sherman tank and a Pontiac Aztek, and shouldn't be allowed within 300 meters of an elementary school lest is cause severe emotional trauma.

I mean "crap" insofar as the concept goes...  by all accounts, the execution of said crap is actually quite good.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 06:17:31 am »
Quote from: ovr50 on January 01, 2009, 01:15:36 am
"...they're giving us crap like the X6"

Not saying the X6 is a pretty car, but it seems that it handles extremely well and is a well-balanced vehicle (whatever it is). I don't think any vehicle with the bones of the X6 can be characterized as "crap", especially by those who not driven it.  ::)

All the downsides of a "sporty crossover" (i.e., higher curb weight and higher center of gravity) with no more interior space than a sport sedan.  I think this is one where people CAN say it doesn't make sense without driving it (or the next "don't criticize BMW tests," owning it for a year).
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 06:46:54 am »
Quote from: Demosthenes X on January 01, 2009, 01:06:57 am
Quote from: dr_spock on December 31, 2008, 11:19:08 pm
BMW could be copying the old Mazda6 line up of sedan, hatch, wagon.

That Mazda chose to discontinue that approach would suggest it was not cost effective, no?  Ergo, BMW should not copy it.

OTOH, they're giving us crap like the X6, so...

Mazda did not discontinue that setup... see Europe Mazda6.

Only discontinued for the NA market
Americans don't like wagons/hatches  :banghead:

I really hope Mazda will bring the mazda6 hatch to Canada as a special case like the Lancer Wagon and X-Trail.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2009, 08:50:18 am »
Quote from: Black Hatch on January 01, 2009, 06:46:54 am
I really hope Mazda will bring the mazda6 hatch to Canada as a special case like the Lancer Wagon and X-Trail.

Don't hold your breath as it won't happen. Since the NA Mazda6 is an entirely different car they won't do it.

Re this BMW, I don't think it will be a hit. A 3 series hatch might be a better buy but how many people in this price bracket would get a hatch over the wagon? Are there even other hatches at this level?

Also, I wonder how long these meeting are to come up with names like PAS? Maybe they should just add another "S" to the end.
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2009, 11:40:41 am »
Quote from: Demosthenes X on January 01, 2009, 01:24:37 am
Quote from: ovr50 on January 01, 2009, 01:15:36 am
"...they're giving us crap like the X6"

Not saying the X6 is a pretty car, but it seems that it handles extremely well and is a well-balanced vehicle (whatever it is). I don't think any vehicle with the bones of the X6 can be characterized as "crap", especially by those who not driven it.  ::)

I'm sure, being a BMW, it's good to drive.  I just don't see the point of it, and happen to think it looks like the bastard love child of a Sherman tank and a Pontiac Aztek, and shouldn't be allowed within 300 meters of an elementary school lest is cause severe emotional trauma.

I mean "crap" insofar as the concept goes...  by all accounts, the execution of said crap is actually quite good.

OK, and I admit that the visual appearance of it leaves a lot to be desired IMO, especially from the rear. I would not likely consider this vehicle over the more traditional X5. To me, the X5 makes a lot more sense and has more carry capacity. In some ways, I suspect BMW felt like they had to make something to compete with the Cayanne S Turbo as I hear there is talk at BMW of an M model of the X6.  ::)
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 01:48:20 pm »
Quote from: quadzilla on January 01, 2009, 08:50:18 am
Also, I wonder how long these meeting are to come up with names like PAS? Maybe they should just add another "S" to the end.

I can see it now: get your new BMW 535 PAS sDrive!  What a mess...
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Re: BMW 5 series hatchback given go ahead
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2009, 06:15:11 pm »
I didn't realize that it was possible for a car company to get Attention Deficit Disorder.  :-\
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