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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2008, 11:56:41 pm »
All things considered, the concept looks very close to the production car. 

The majority of concept cars are changed signficantly at production time and I would say that the Challenger has made the transition very well.

Minor details have to be changed from the concept - for the purposes of saving costs, safety design, etc.

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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2008, 12:07:25 am »
They moved the turn signal lights, put red calipers and longer "stems" on the side mirrors on the production unit. Anything else seems to be camera angles. Oh, and there is now a place to put gas.

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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2008, 12:28:48 am »
Christ, they look pretty much identical. Would someone be kind enough to point out the dramatic differences that make one more attractive/uglier than the other?

The main difference is called tumblehome, or lack thereof in the production model.  Furthermore, in addition to being slab-sided, the production model has just messed up all the details: the kink by the rear wheel is too sharp, the leading edge of the hood is too thick, the rear lights are horrible, and the overall stance went from aggressive to middle-aged mobile.  I'm surprised that people didn't notice it.  As soon as I first saw the production model I though it just looked wrong. 

So would you call the new beetle or new mini wrong as well ?To me the challenger is just
a modern version of the original like the previously mentioned cars.

The New Beetle is alright but the new New Mini looks pretty wrong as well.

The lack of tumblehome on the production Challenger is glaringly obvious to me and it just ruins the car.  Other people's mileage obviously varies.

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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2008, 12:57:11 pm »
Holy crap...I agree with you completely, dorin.   ;)

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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2008, 10:57:49 am »
Christ, they look pretty much identical. Would someone be kind enough to point out the dramatic differences that make one more attractive/uglier than the other?

 :iagree:


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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2008, 06:02:03 pm »
You have to remember that Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all can't like the same vehicle altho we may but not all of us can afford one as well.  :)

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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2008, 09:41:01 pm »
With marketing like this me thinks the new Chrysler Corp will not be the first domestic auto maker to go belly up.

A Challenger 800 pounds lighter than the production version will be available for racing. This will be a special factory package built for NHRA-sanctioned Stock Eliminator drag racing. Features will include a unique serial number sequence, variations of current Hemi and 5.9 liter Magnum engines, automatic or manual transmission, and special lightweight features including:

Lightweight front fascia support system
Composite lift-off hood with functional scoop
Lightweight cooling module with electric fan
Special modified drop-out front crossmember
Lightweight drag race-only front brake assembly
Seats to accommodate six-point harness
Special Body-in-White modified for drag racing


Shortly after the 2008s comes 2009 model-year production. The lineup will be expanded to three models with the addition of three more engines, the base model having the 3.5L V6 while the R/T model will have the new (380-horsepower) 5.7L VCT Hemi with MDS (5-speed) and without MDS (6-speed). Both the R/T and SRT8 will offer an optional six-speed TREMEC manual transmission. Production of the 2009 models is set to start early, in June of 2008. Vehicles are expected to start arriving to dealers in late June/July.

The manual transmission is a TREMEC model, as used in the Viper, with close-ratio gearing and a convenient shift pattern. The shifter is reportedly fairly plain.
 
All 2009 Challenger models will feature, as Standard equipment, front and side air bags, air conditioning, body-color door handles and fascias, cell phone storage, cruise control, a floor console with sliding armrest, functional hood scoops, non-adjustable pedals, power mirrors, power windows (1-touch down), rear wheel drive, rear window radio antenna, 3-point rear center seatbelts, satin/chrome grilles, Sentry Key anti-theft system and a tilt-telescoping steering wheel. None of the Challenger models will feature a spare tire, a “service kit” will be offered instead.

Other features and options on the 2009 Challenger will include Remote Start, MyGIG Infotainments systems with and without navigation, Sirius Satellite radio, foglamps, and a power sunroof. Base models will have a Tire Pressure warning light while other models will have a Tire Pressure display. Wheels on the R/T appear to be 18-inch plain five-spokes.
 
The 5.7L Hemi engine is set for an upgrade, which is why the R/T Challengers will not arrive until the 2009 model year. Chrysler will have variable cam timing in place on these new-generation 5.7 engines, neatly leapfrogging most variable-valve timing systems. In addition to VVT and expanded MDS operating range, the HEMI’s fuel economy (~4%) and performance improvements (~10%) result from an increased compression ratio, an active intake manifold with long runners for low-end torque and short runners for high-rpm power, improved cylinder head port flow efficiency, and reduced restriction exhaust and induction systems. To raise the reliability and durability of the HEMI engine, other updates are crankshaft structural upgrades, a dual-mass crankshaft damper, floating pin piston design, valve spring design and oil pump capacity increase for VVT. The 2009 Dodge Ram will get 380 hp and 404 lb-ft of torque from the new Hemi and the Challenger numbers are expected be somewhat similar.
 
The expanded Multiple Displacement System (MDS) will be included in the new 5.7 that is offered in R/T automatic transmission models, while 6-speed manual R/T models will feature the same engine without MDS. A 6.4 liter version, with an estimated 500 or more hp, is still expected to be offered in a future model of the Challenger, possibly debuting in the 2010 model year.

Additional features of the 2009 R/T will include a rear body-color spoiler, 4-wheel anti-lock heavy-duty brakes, anti-spin rear differential, chrome pedals, dual rear exhaust, heated front seats, illuminated cupholders and map pockets, power heated mirrors, instrument cluster display screen, performance steering and suspension and 20”x8” chrome-clad wheels. R/T models will have a 19-gal. fuel tank, vs the 18.5 tank on the base models.


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Re: Challenger SRT-8 officially unveiled
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2008, 10:15:56 pm »
Nothing there about increased tumblehome for '09?
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