Topic: Noto's first car purchase

[quadzilla]

Wind and elevation changes can make a bigger difference than speed. Cyclists understand this.

[Noto]

I find the adaptive cruise to be hella efficient - I get my best mileage when using it.  The 6.0L/100km was on Highway 11 in Muskoka from one gas station, to a cottage, and then back to another gas station so it was purely Highway with the speed limit at 90km/h for most of the way and with adaptive cruise on the whole way.  Ideal conditions.

Typical highway mileage is typically 7.0-7.3L/100km at 110-120km/h and dropping into the 6.4-6.8L/100km at 100-110km/h.  City is obviously variable, but most drives are 8.5-9.5L/100km.  When I drive my wife to work (mix of city and Highway) I get 7.4-8.1L/100km though.  Winter is definitely worse between the snow tires and the remaining usual factors.

The Forester's mileage still sucks despite the same engine displacement...

[Noto]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

[JohnnyMac]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

Hmmm, does this mean that the engine consumes more oil than it should?  Not a huge issue if you aren't seeing a visible leak or a spot in your garage/driveway, but probably not the best for emissions either.  Regardless they should top you up for free and I wouldn't sweat it too much considering it's only a lease and you aren't planning on keeping it long term.  Let us know what the dealer says.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

Hmmm, does this mean that the engine consumes more oil than it should?  Not a huge issue if you aren't seeing a visible leak or a spot in your garage/driveway, but probably not the best for emissions either.  Regardless they should top you up for free and I wouldn't sweat it too much considering it's only a lease and you aren't planning on keeping it long term.  Let us know what the dealer says.

Yeah, the TSB mentions that it is likely caused by oil leaking into the combustion chamber and combusting, but the cause hasn't been determined yet, and a more permanent fix will be anounced at a later date.  In the meantime, a top-up is the current 'repair'. 

[Blueprint]

From the TSB:

A small amount of the engine oil may be leaking into the combustion chamber, causing the oil consumption.
Mazda has confirmed this oil leakage into the combustion chamber will not cause any immediate engine damage
and the vehicle may be safely driven. The warning message and CHECK ENGINE light will go off by topping off
the engine oil level. This is only a temporary repair and as soon as Mazda identifies the root cause, a complete
repair procedure will be announced. Mazda will top off or replace the engine oil at no charge until the complete
repair is provided.

So they're planning a fix that may involve opening up the engine... NoTo, you're on a lease, right?

[Gurgie]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

I know you're cheap buddy  but is it worth your time going to the dealer for an oil top up? Or just stop at Crappy Tire, buy a quart of oil & top it off yourself? I'm thinking you're hourly bill rate is worth more than a quart of oil & spending that time at the dealership 

[Blueprint]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

I know you're cheap buddy  but is it worth your time going to the dealer for an oil top up? Or just stop at Crappy Tire, buy a quart of oil & top it off yourself? I'm thinking you're hourly bill rate is worth more than a quart of oil & spending that time at the dealership 

I'd go the dealer route as this is part of a larger-scope TSB. It brings the VIN into the process and may avoid issues later when the "fix" is known.

[Allen]

I was first going to agree with Gurgie, but Blueprint brings up a good point, I would probably want it documented in case of future issues..

[Noto]

Yes, it's a lease (36 months) and a 2023 has been reserved for me before my current lease is up.

This oil consumption issue isn't bugging me at all, though it is ironic that I have an 11.5 year old Subaru that hasn't consumed a drop 😉.  The dealership is across the street from CT, so it's even easier, I'm just teasing that the dealership will try to deflect as all dealerships tend to do.  My biggest reason for doing it is to make sure Mazda gets notice of the number of vehicles affected... Doing it myself wouldn't get the message to Mazda corporate.

... By the way, this is the same dealership that has DEFLATED my tires set to the proper pressure when I take it in for service because they assume all Mazda 3s have the same recommended tire pressures when the turbo is 38psi up front (non-turbo is 36).  They can't read a sticker on the door jamb?  If not, can they really figure out how to top up oil?   

[Noto]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

I know you're cheap buddy  but is it worth your time going to the dealer for an oil top up? Or just stop at Crappy Tire, buy a quart of oil & top it off yourself? I'm thinking you're hourly bill rate is worth more than a quart of oil & spending that time at the dealership 

I'd go the dealer route as this is part of a larger-scope TSB. It brings the VIN into the process and may avoid issues later when the "fix" is known.

Yes, this - I typed my reply out before seeing this.

[Gurgie]

Welp, first issue (which isn't a big deal, but figured I'd share since knowledge is power... Or something):

As I was pulling into my street yesterday after a 20 mins drive, I got a low engine oil warning.  With the immense power of the Google God, indeed, there's a TSB regarding the issue:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2021/MC-10203724-0001.pdf

I have 24,550 km on the odometer, delivered Dec 10, 2021 (21 months ago; roughly 14,000km/year average)

Now let's see if the stealership tries to deny topping up $10 worth of oil under warranty like the TSB states it should.

I know you're cheap buddy  but is it worth your time going to the dealer for an oil top up? Or just stop at Crappy Tire, buy a quart of oil & top it off yourself? I'm thinking you're hourly bill rate is worth more than a quart of oil & spending that time at the dealership 

I'd go the dealer route as this is part of a larger-scope TSB. It brings the VIN into the process and may avoid issues later when the "fix" is known.

I'd call the dealer, let them know & get them to log it into the system, but to go into the dealer for an oil top up when my time is worth $100/hr, fack that!!! And Noto's time is worth more than mine since he's a high priced lawyer    I've got better things to do with my time, and I'm sure he does as well 

[PJungnitsch]

Since this issue has been reported after a valve stem seal modification, it is very likely that valve stem seal damage is causing oil to leak into the combustion chamber

From what I remember it's possible to change valve stem seals without pulling the head, so might be a fairly quick fix

[Noto]

I'm in-house counsel, my time is cheap 😂

And PJ, it's a lease - not my concern 

[Noto]

Oil topped up and Mazda corporate notified at no cost to me.  Got a free coffee during the 7 mins i waited for the work to be done.  I'd say a decent experience!

[Gurgie]

Oil topped up and Mazda corporate notified at no cost to me.  Got a free coffee during the 7 mins i waited for the work to be done.  I'd say a decent experience!

Nice!

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