Topic: Hyundai Tucson N

[JohnnyMac]

Figured I should share this news.  https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/the-upcoming-hyundai-tucson-n-wants-to-punch-above-its-weight-class

Looks like Hyundai will be making a performance SUV to rival the Ford Edge ST and to a lesser extent the Mazda CX-5 with the turbo 2.5L engine.

Depending on how expensive this model will turn out to be I think it could be a success in getting peoples money who used to be the buyers for the Forester XT and the Rav4 V6.

I could totally see us replacing our Santa Fe and Golf R with a Tucson N and a Veloster N.

[Jaeger]

That much punch in a compact CUV should be entertaining.

[EV Dan]

While their current 2.4L could be turbo'd to deliver well over 300hp they would definitely need a different, more heavy duty transmission and who knows if that will fit in the current ute.

[dirtyjeffer]

While their current 2.4L could be turbo'd to deliver well over 300hp they would definitely need a different, more heavy duty transmission and who knows if that will fit in the current ute.

they already have a 2.0T on the shelf...my guess is, some performance rework of that would certainly bump up the power to the numbers they want...i'm not sure about transmissions, but they can either source a decent unit from someone or make one themselves (may not be the most cost effective method if the application for it is limited).

[JohnnyMac]

While their current 2.4L could be turbo'd to deliver well over 300hp they would definitely need a different, more heavy duty transmission and who knows if that will fit in the current ute.

they already have a 2.0T on the shelf...my guess is, some performance rework of that would certainly bump up the power to the numbers they want...i'm not sure about transmissions, but they can either source a decent unit from someone or make one themselves (may not be the most cost effective method if the application for it is limited).

I doubt that they'll be using a 2.0T simply because the Veloster N has this engine and it's only rated at 275hp and adding 65hp would probably impact reliability heavily.  Other than Honda Civic Type R and the 2.0T in Merc's AMG's I don't know of anyone else that offers a 2.0T with 300+ HP.

I was going to guess they would take that nice 3.3L Turbo engine from out of the Stinger and G70 and stick it in a Tucson.  Now I could be completely wrong as it likely won't fit but it would be nice.

[Fobroader]

They have a perfectly good 5L V8, use that engine.

[JohnnyMac]

They have a perfectly good 5L V8, use that engine.

Even better.

[dougjp]

This old article talks about next generation Hyundai engines. The upcoming Sonata and this Tucson should get the new 2.5 turbo, but more than likely the former won't. However they must know they need to make a version of the Sonata that gives performance numbers like the competitions' optional engines, and the 2.0 isn't it in its present form.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/13/hyundai-mid-engine-car/

[JohnnyMac]

This old article talks about next generation Hyundai engines. The upcoming Sonata and this Tucson should get the new 2.5 turbo, but more than likely the former won't. However they must know they need to make a version of the Sonata that gives performance numbers like the competitions' optional engines, and the 2.0 isn't it in its present form.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/13/hyundai-mid-engine-car/

I still think having 340+ Hp will most likely come from a turbo 6 cylinder rather than a turbo 4 cylinder.  There just aren't many 4 cylinder offerings that make 300+ hp and I'd think it'd be more reliable and easier to get that HP number from a turbo 6 cylinder.

[dirtyjeffer]

While their current 2.4L could be turbo'd to deliver well over 300hp they would definitely need a different, more heavy duty transmission and who knows if that will fit in the current ute.

they already have a 2.0T on the shelf...my guess is, some performance rework of that would certainly bump up the power to the numbers they want...i'm not sure about transmissions, but they can either source a decent unit from someone or make one themselves (may not be the most cost effective method if the application for it is limited).

I doubt that they'll be using a 2.0T simply because the Veloster N has this engine and it's only rated at 275hp and adding 65hp would probably impact reliability heavily.  Other than Honda Civic Type R and the 2.0T in Merc's AMG's I don't know of anyone else that offers a 2.0T with 300+ HP.

I was going to guess they would take that nice 3.3L Turbo engine from out of the Stinger and G70 and stick it in a Tucson.  Now I could be completely wrong as it likely won't fit but it would be nice.

the "N" division is Hyundai's performance division (akin to RS and AMG) even if their products aren't premium branded...you could beef the 2.0T up to handle that power, much like other brands do with theirs...the 2.0T used by MB AMG has 375 HP...the 2020 Golf R is rumoured to have 400 HP...Volvo's 2.0T/S Polestar has 362 HP (or 316 HP in non Polestar guise)...the 2.0T Porsche uses in the 718 Cayman/Boxter is 300 HP...so they certainly exist.

[dirtyjeffer]

This old article talks about next generation Hyundai engines. The upcoming Sonata and this Tucson should get the new 2.5 turbo, but more than likely the former won't. However they must know they need to make a version of the Sonata that gives performance numbers like the competitions' optional engines, and the 2.0 isn't it in its present form.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/13/hyundai-mid-engine-car/

I still think having 340+ Hp will most likely come from a turbo 6 cylinder rather than a turbo 4 cylinder.  There just aren't many 4 cylinder offerings that make 300+ hp and I'd think it'd be more reliable and easier to get that HP number from a turbo 6 cylinder.

it's certainly much easier (and likely less expensive) if you increase the engine displacement and number of cylinders...but i don't think the G70 powertrain would fit under the hood of the Tucson...the Tucson isn't very big.

[dkaz]

Nor is the Tucson RWD based.

The next generation Golf R is expected to make 400 HP from a 2 litre turbo.

[EV Dan]

Nor is the Tucson RWD based.

The next generation Golf R is expected to make 400 HP from a 2 litre turbo.

Yeah, but Hyundai customers will freak out and have a panic attack if they ever see one CEL 
So, I think they will play it safe and use a large 4 pot in this application. I think they already have a FWD designated tranny to handle this power, maybe an 8spd from the upcoming Palisade? (if that fits of course)

[EV-Light]

Nor is the Tucson RWD based.

The next generation Golf R is expected to make 400 HP from a 2 litre turbo.

We will see if they will get that out the 2.0...I assumed they were going to use a hybrid power train to boost power but that’s off the cards now.


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