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Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« on: May 22, 2015, 04:34:19 pm »
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Re: Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 04:51:00 pm »
Good luck with making this economic  :)

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Re: Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2015, 11:20:52 pm »
Good luck with making this economic  :)
ain't that the truth with most amazing innovations :(

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Re: Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2015, 11:56:17 pm »
Cut subsidies of petrochemical conglomerates, add taxes where necessary. Voilà, instant economic viability.

What could use a lot of scrutiny is the process, and whether it's truly carbon neutral.
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Re: Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 09:10:24 am »
"Audi is expected to start testing e-benzin soon. In the medium term, the company and Global Bioenergies aim to modify the process so that it requires no biomass, but rather just water, hydrogen, CO2, and sunlight."

Maybe technically possible but the conversion process is likely to be inefficient.  I'd love to see the EROI (energy return on energy investment) numbers.  Still, the energy density of the end product makes it a goal to be pursued. 

1 litre of gas, which this appears to be, has an energy content of around 10kW hours and it is doubtful electric batter technology will approach this in any of our great, great grandchildrens' lifetimes.  Then there is the efficiency of the ICE motor which will use the fuel.  Unlikely to get much above 40% whereas electric motor systems are probably 90% + now.

Still a pretty brilliant advance for Audi and their partners.

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Re: Audi produces petroleum-free synthetic gasoline
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2015, 02:06:06 pm »
E-Benzin would most likely come with a patent and as such be considered a price fixed product that would have to be priced in or below regular gas to be competitive.

It's not like running a car on salt water, which is readily available.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/09/27/salt-water-powered-car-gets-approval-in-europe-yes-its-real/
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